[Sam779]

Yes that's what I mean. If we had both keepers on our books, who would we plump for in goal?

Everything weighed up, I'm sure that Weaver would get the nod.

If not, and I'm sure it wouldn't be a popular decision, but a club needing some money and desperately at that, sell a good keeper for £1+ and get an equally good, if not better keeper, in for nowt.

[fatzooma]

shandypants, on 29 July 2010 - 11:19 PM, said:

^^^^
This. Plus Len Ashurst recruited local lads which led to success when continued by Big Jack and Howard Wilkinson. If Weaver joins, we would have four known Wednesdayites plus a second generation Wednesday player in our squad. This could well bring a 'die for the shirt' attitude to the team.

I'd have Weaver - without a doubt.

Couldn't agree more. Can't believe the wankers on here who think we are going to land some big name. Afterall, Lee Grant was a second string Keeper who may have played for the 'Little League ' England but alas no more. Will Grant ever be England first choice?? I pretty much doubt it. Come on Weaver!!

[Glaser]

Weaver in, R'OD or Jameson out on loan

[LaminyPie]

He'd be fine in league one.


get him in now!

[BRUCE LEE]

GHS, on 30 July 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

I see where you are going with this.

grant was a good GK but not as great as people made out. he only got player of the season as the rest were total pish.

I think it is a valid point but of course only time will tell.

I can't wait for people to jump down Weavers back on the 1st smallest mistake he makes. (if he comes that is)

Its the Wednesday way.

All I say is Weaver was and still could be a great GK, he needs a run of games and some form. Both he will get if he comes.

I know what you mean.

I really hope he has a good start cos it sounds like there are a few doubters knocking about just waiting to slag him off.

[Glaser]

BRUCE LEE, on 30 July 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:

I know what you mean.

I really hope he has a good start cos it sounds like there are a few doubters knocking about just waiting to slag him off.

to be fair, every keeper is going to come under that same microscope, due to the success of Lee Grant these past 2 seasons.
Whoever signs is stepping into big shoes, like it or not, he will be compared to Grant. 'Lee Grant would have saved that', 'Lee Grant wouldn't have dropped that'.
It's going to be part of the territory at the beginning.
Some solid performances and some top quality saves (which Weaver is more than capable of) will soon have us forgetting about Granty

[Grimbarian]

If it's Weaver then so be it, just please sign him up already so we can accept it and move on, this club loves to do things slow doesn't it? :(

[GHS]

As long as he can command his area and come off his fooking line, I will be happy.

Both were Grants major faults, or have people forgot that?

Coventry away anyone?!

My main point is lets get behind whoever comes 100%.

[intercity0wl]

Sam779, on 30 July 2010 - 08:48 AM, said:

Think I'd rather have Weaver than Grant in goal.

Good bit of business if this comes off.

A better bit of business would be to pay the Taxman, untill thats done we cannot get anybody in, it was going to be sorted by today if i remember right wasn't it ?.

[Glaser]

GHS, on 30 July 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

As long as he can command his area and come off his fooking line, I will be happy.

Both were Grants major faults, or have people forgot that?

Coventry away anyone?!

My main point is lets get behind whoever comes 100%.

must have been terrible having these MAJOR faults. I mean, they were so bad they stopped him getting player of the season TWICE, they were also so bad that he probably singled handedly won us 5-10 points in each of the last 2 seasons

I see what you mean about his MAJOR faults ........ :blink:

[senwar]

BRUCE LEE, on 30 July 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:

I know what you mean.

I really hope he has a good start cos it sounds like there are a few doubters knocking about just waiting to slag him off.

Yeah but its only because we've just sold Cassilas.

[Morrisontobelieve]

Nicky Weaver has made over 300 career appearances, quite a few at the top level, was highly rated as a young keeper, what more do people want?

[GHS]

Glaser, on 30 July 2010 - 08:56 AM, said:

must have been terrible having these MAJOR faults. I mean, they were so bad they stopped him getting player of the season TWICE, they were also so bad that he probably singled handedly won us 5-10 points in each of the last 2 seasons

I see what you mean about his MAJOR faults ........ :blink:

1) HIS major faults was my point.

2) Player of the year was no real achievement with the standard of shite we had.

Don't get me wrong I liked Grant but believe he was too hyped up here as some amazing GK.

Good not great is my point.

Not irreplacable.

[Sam779]

Morrisontobelieve, on 30 July 2010 - 10:01 AM, said:

Nicky Weaver has made over 300 career appearances, quite a few at the top level, was highly rated as a young keeper, what more do people want?

Exactly.

Never mind what people want, what do people expect? Sadly we're a League One club, but to have a keeper lined up (hopefully) of Weaver's caliber and he's a Wednesdayite - surely things couldn't get any better. Plus we've got an extra £1m+ in the bank (in one way or another).

Things haven't turned out so badly between the sticks. (if it happens)

[scram]

Hmm strange thing going on here - Grant is getting worse by the day while Weaver is getting better!

Weaver will be at his level in league 1 - but if we're gonna start on Grant's faults please let's not get started on Weaver

Weaver will hopefully plug a gap for a season - still a kick in the nads to lose Grant the way we did and we REALLY should have seen this coming and signed a decent keeper when they were available

[Grimbarian]

scram, on 30 July 2010 - 11:15 AM, said:

Weaver will hopefully plug a gap for a season - still a kick in the nads to lose Grant the way we did and we REALLY should have seen this coming and signed a decent keeper when they were available

This.

[Morrisontobelieve]

scram, on 30 July 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:

Hmm strange thing going on here - Grant is getting worse by the day while Weaver is getting better!

Weaver will be at his level in league 1 - but if we're gonna start on Grant's faults please let's not get started on Weaver

Weaver will hopefully plug a gap for a season - still a kick in the nads to lose Grant the way we did and we REALLY should have seen this coming and signed a decent keeper when they were available

For once we'll disagree on a player, I rate Weaver, he's not a top ten in the Premier League but is a goalkeeper who will do a reasonable job given the chance, Grant was an exceptional goalkeeper for us, his ability on crosses was sometimes suspect his shot stopping was excellent

[RUMBELOWS91]

Morrisontobelieve, on 30 July 2010 - 10:01 AM, said:

Nicky Weaver has made over 300 career appearances, quite a few at the top level, was highly rated as a young keeper, what more do people want?

He's probably a goalkeeping equivalent of Mellor/Morrison in that respect - and noones compaining about those signings.

[Dronny Owl]

I cannot believe what i am reading. The bloke is a Wednesdayite shouldnt we all stick together? Just remember this bloke has had a knee transplant. If he is half the player he was for Man City then ill be a happy fella. He will by far be a very good aqcuisition for the club.

[Morrisontobelieve]

signing next week

[Grimbarian]

Dronny Owl, on 30 July 2010 - 10:01 PM, said:

If he is half the player he was for Man City then ill be a happy fella. He will by far be a very good aqcuisition for the club.

For Man City he was a decent shot stopper but poor at crosses/corners and decision making as to when he comes off his line, not sure I want to contemplate what 50% of that would make him :(

But we're a skint league 1 team and beggars can't be choosers etc.

[Arthur Bach]

Goalkeepers are all about form.

If a striker hasn't got at least 10 goals in a season at age 25 he probably won't ever get it - but a goalkeeper can hit form at 30.

Grant's gone for profit and wasn't all that, he put in some fine performances and is a top professional but life goes on.

[Grimbarian]

Nobody's saying otherwise, just making a comment in reply to another comment........

[Arthur Bach]

Grimbarian, on 30 July 2010 - 09:25 PM, said:

Nobody's saying otherwise, just making a comment in reply to another comment........

I wasn't quoting you.

[senwar]

Grimbarian, on 30 July 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

a decent shot stopper but poor at crosses/corners and decision making as to when he comes off his line

You've just virtually described Grant

[Ripley Owl]

GHS, on 30 July 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

As long as he can command his area and come off his fooking line, I will be happy.

Both were Grants major faults, or have people forgot that?

Coventry away anyone?!

My main point is lets get behind whoever comes 100%.

Spot on !

[Arthur Bach]

senwar, on 30 July 2010 - 09:50 PM, said:

You've just virtually described Grant

I thought that.

[TheBoyBeevers]

scram, on 30 July 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:

Hmm strange thing going on here - Grant is getting worse by the day while Weaver is getting better!

Weaver will be at his level in league 1 - but if we're gonna start on Grant's faults please let's not get started on Weaver

Weaver will hopefully plug a gap for a season - still a kick in the nads to lose Grant the way we did and we REALLY should have seen this coming and signed a decent keeper when they were available

Last week- Grant was the best keeper outside of the premiership and as loyal as they come.

A handful of days later and Nicky Weaver, who has just finished a spell at Burnley where he couldn't get in the team ahead of that fat boy Jensen, is going to be his replacement, whilst Grant goes to....yes you've guessed it, Burnley. Will Grant get a game at Burnley instead of Jensen? I think we all know the answer to that.

It wouldn't be a bad deal (I'l be happy if we get Weaver on a 12 month deal)- Weaver and £1 million in, Grant out....but PLEASE don't try and argue that Grant is a weaker keeper than Weaver.

[Benjani]

scram, on 30 July 2010 - 10:15 AM, said:

Hmm strange thing going on here - Grant is getting worse by the day while Weaver is getting better!

Weaver will be at his level in league 1 - but if we're gonna start on Grant's faults please let's not get started on Weaver

Weaver will hopefully plug a gap for a season - still a kick in the nads to lose Grant the way we did and we REALLY should have seen this coming and signed a decent keeper when they were available

^^^
This.

Grant is old news now apparently and having gone for £1m a keeper that is without a Club is by far the better keeper.

For every mistake Grant made including his one against Coventry, I remember watching Nicky Weaver let a ball through his hands which was at the speed of a Richard Hinds sprint, that Marlon King tapped into an empty net.

But we've seen Grant make numerous outstanding saves including Preston away, Ipswich away and QPR away which all got us draws when he was the real difference.

For League 1 Weaver is adequate, he'll do a decent job, he's free and we'll have made £1m profit and got a replacement for nothing. I would have liked Turner but he hasn't played enough games and it would be an almighty gamble.

But lets not do Grant a disservice here, he's head and shoulders above Weaver. But we're a Division lower so it shouldn't prove as costly.

[Dronny Owl]

Grimbarian, on 30 July 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

For Man City he was a decent shot stopper but poor at crosses/corners and decision making as to when he comes off his line, not sure I want to contemplate what 50% of that would make him :(

But we're a skint league 1 team and beggars can't be choosers etc.

I seem to remember him being tipped for the top he also has England U21 and B caps you dont get them for being Crap???? This fella could have gone all the way. Yes he has had some very serious career thretening injuries but has changed his attitude and put in some good apps for Charlton and up in Scotland. I think he will do more than just fill a gap. But if the gap he fills is inbetween the goalposts then im happy with that. Plus hes a local lad, hes not going to cost us anything and i think he would gladly take any sort of wage so it wouldnt break our bank. If he does well he may attract attention from bigger clubs and perhaps a bit more money coming our way. I do know one thing this bloke bleeds Wednesday. I think this would be very good business for the club.