Guest Ben Thomas Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 There are still three games left,if hekeeps us up he'l be a ledgend but people are going on about how poor a manager he is. If we go down then fair enough but we're not down yet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 There are still three games left,if hekeeps us up he'l be a ledgend but people are going on about how poor a manager he is. If we go down then fair enough but we're not down yet!!! And where do you suggest the 'sea change in attitude' is going to come from? Last 3 games (big Easter schedule - decides most things) One point from Nine. Yes, that's battling to save your life, isn't it? Going have to be a big change in attitude for any optimism to continue. Personally I'm dreading next week. I'll be glad when it is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frastheowl Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 If Irvine keeps us up, he'll have succeeded in the task he was appointed to do. He certainly won't be a legend. If we stay up, he'll have done well, but only what fans would have expected from him when he was first appointed. If we go down, in my opinion, he'll have royally fooked it up, but he'll be shielded from any real blame because of the continuing emphasis of Brian Laws and the squad he assembled. Should we eventually fail in our attempts to avoid the drop, it'll be the way we've been relegated that would anger me more. We are toothless, negative and horrendous to watch. Fans will accept it if we win the games to keep us up...but presently, we're not! Either way, what ever division were in next season, I hope he changes his approach...I can't watch this style of football for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 If Irvine keeps us up, he'll have succeeded in the task he was appointed to do. He certainly won't be a legend. If we stay up, he'll have done well, but only what fans would have expected from him when he was first appointed. If we go down, in my opinion, he'll have royally fooked it up, but he'll be shielded from any real blame because of the continuing emphasis of Brian Laws and the squad he assembled. Should we eventually fail in our attempts to avoid the drop, it'll be the way we've been relegated that would anger me more. We are toothless, negative and horrendous to watch. Fans will accept it if we win the games to keep us up...but presently, we're not! Either way, what ever division were in next season, I hope he changes his approach...I can't watch this style of football for much longer. If he had the players who had the ability to change I would agree, he hasn't they are talentless baffoons. Judge the man at the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikes Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Irvine came here needing us to have play off form for the rest of the season and if we go down by 1 or 2 points he'll have done a good job at getting us so close to staying up due to the fact Laws left us with a hell of a task to do. IF we stay up he won't be a legend at all as that word comes up far too oftern nowadays. Irvine has the same players as Laws did but the difference is Irvine uses what he has and makes them work hard, work for each other and organizes the team (like Everton do). it won't be fun to watch but it's effective and i know it's been said and i agree IF we could get a striker in e.g Adam Le Fondre we'd have been 10points better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blue&WhiteBen Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 i'm not judging Irvine i'm judging the shower of poo in blue & white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Does anybody know our league position when Mr Laws was punted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest totemowl Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Does anybody know our league position when Mr Laws was punted? Laws Out P 21 18 pts Irvine in P 23 19 pts Now P43 45 pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Does anybody know our league position when Mr Laws was punted? 22nd - 19 points (i think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 As things stand, nobody looks like coming out of this season with much credit. It's been garbage. Laws was dire, Irvine has shown why Preston sacked him, and the players on the whole have proved themselves the squad with the least heart I've seen in a long time. I'm ready for my summer hols now to be honest, screw the lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 So which of the "monkeys" are to blame.... is it the players ...or could it be .Laws.....if not Laws then it must be Irvine....or of course it could be the fans again. Or whipser it quitely could it just possibly be the organ grinder....Strafford and his brand managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geoffo Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Laws Out P 21 18 pts Irvine in P 23 19 pts Now P43 45 pts Er, shome mishtake surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Er, shome mishtake surely? No. They're the clubs totals at the time of those resepctive events, not the stats of the managers themselves which is : Laws P21 PTS18 McAuley P2 PTS1 Irvine P20 PTS26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 No. They're the clubs totals at the time of those resepctive events, not the stats of the managers themselves which is : Laws P21 PTS18 McAuley P2 PTS1 Irvine P20 PTS26 Irvine hasn't done a bad job judging by those numbers. Could, and probably should, have been better though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlg Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 i'm not judging Irvine i'm judging the shower of poo in blue & white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Irvine hasn't done a bad job judging by those numbers. Could, and probably should, have been better though. Not a bad job just about covers it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bartos Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 IIt's been a difficult season granted but we are not down yet so why point the blame finger? Doing more harm than anything, we all need to focus on doing everything we can to get us out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crooky Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 There are still three games left,if hekeeps us up he'l be a ledgend but people are going on about how poor a manager he is. If we go down then fair enough but we're not down yet!!! Legend :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisewoodowl Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Does anybody know our league position when Mr Laws was punted? 22nd on 18 points after that abysmal away defeat at Leicester. Laws was sacked the day after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardiffowl06 Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 blamin laws for our impending relegation is like blamin thatcher for the state of our economy,utter testicles. irvine has had more than enough time to turn it around and hes failed miserably,he sets out every game home or away to get a point The difference here being that every government has new money through taxes to spend and change, whilst Irvine has had Brian's squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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