Philb125 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 21 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Playing in his proper position when he came on he looked clam and assured. Never wasted the ball. Never passed forward either despite us chasing the game. Passed 2 yards to Lee at one point then pointed to the pass he should have been hitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, OhForAnotherShez said: Watched him closely today, doesn't seem confident (hope he IS bothered). It's no good playing in 10yd triangles, especially when no one is in the middle from the opposition. Moved a bit better off the ball than I've given him credit for but I wish he could change pace, and show a bit of aggression when we didn't have the ball. My be more valuable when we are winning, than losing. (thought their 11- Osbourn closed down well !!) 100% btw was that 'the predator' at r/b for them, i thought he was normally invisible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsbornanbred Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Beast of Boulogne said: A poor mans Trond Soltvedt Wow. Now that's just mean. I'll give you a couple of marks for originality though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, dnhc said: 100% btw was that 'the predator' at r/b for them, i thought he was normally invisible... No Osbourne was fair haired , left side midfield. he closed quickly and accelerated into position to challenge a few yards further upfield than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Philb125 said: Never passed forward either despite us chasing the game. Passed 2 yards to Lee at one point then pointed to the pass he should have been hitting. do you refer to when he took a pass off lee, then immediately passed it back and pointed the pass lee should have made? i thought that would have 'rubbed me the wrong way'... potteresque in his direction finding... vonkesque in his passing accuracy, found his man every time, and not one of them even a slightly 'telling ball'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 He's not ready for first team in my opinion and I don't like idea of him finding form at expense of others who give more at this point. Play a development game if you need confidence. If BB is injured then it's between Abdi and Jones but on current form he'd be nowhere near starting for me. Said I'd last week when he hit 42/42 passes, 100% completion rate for a number 8 or 10 shows a woeful lack of ambition rather than perfect passing ability. Playing defense splitting passes are not a sure thing and maybe 30% land but if you don't try you don't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Such an odd signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, OhForAnotherShez said: No Osbourne was fair haired , left side midfield. he closed quickly and accelerated into position to challenge a few yards further upfield than most. they'd one or two decent players in their side i'd give a chance to in a wednesday shirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Such an odd signing. IF we've seen all there is to see, ODD is far from the right term... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Loads of times today Bannan took the wrong option, gave the ball away or ignored an obvious pass. Reach never saw the ball until Abdi came on. Yet we seem to think it is better to give it away playing an impossible ball rather than keep it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) I don't see that Abdi did anything particularly wrong to warrant what is being thrown at him today. Does it matter the passes are sideways when you have a winger who can deliver a good cross? Edited September 24, 2016 by salmonbones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, oldishowl said: Loads of times today Bannan took the wrong option, gave the ball away or ignored an obvious pass. Reach never saw the ball until Abdi came on. Yet we seem to think it is better to give it away playing an impossible ball rather than keep it I would wager a bet here that Bannan played at least one forward ball that had more combined forward yards than all Abdis put together. I dont doubt that Abdi has it in his locker, but at this moment he's not delivering either because he's scared, out of form or out of confidence. But until he has it back, I'd rather Bannan - Abdi must win the shirt not gain it through reputation or high pass rates. How many chances does Bannan create vs Abdi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Needs more urgency. Consider how easy it is to defend against us when they are winning. Just stay in position, keep behind the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, OhForAnotherShez said: Needs more urgency. Consider how easy it is to defend against us when they are winning. Just stay in position, keep behind the ball. On the contrary, you could see the tempo dropped when Abdi came on. We ended up winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast of Boulogne Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 A right sideways Sid! Makes Potter look positively attack minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Philb125 said: I would wager a bet here that Bannan played at least one forward ball that had more combined forward yards than all Abdis put together. I dont doubt that Abdi has it in his locker, but at this moment he's not delivering either because he's scared, out of form or out of confidence. But until he has it back, I'd rather Bannan - Abdi must win the shirt not gain it through reputation or high pass rates. How many chances does Bannan create vs Abdi? Where have I said we should play Abdi instead of Bannan. That is not even the position Abdi would be best in. However Bannan got a lot of things wrong today and Abdi did well when he came on. Why are people having a go at him This" never passes it forward" is a complete myth. He is just a different type of player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Beast of Boulogne said: A right sideways Sid! Makes Potter look positively attack minded. I agree - but I have faith Abdi can play forward defense splitting passes. Potter on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Clapper Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just accept it, it's £4,000,000 up in smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Really don't know what people expect of Abdi. He does exactly what the Watford fans said, he's not always a game changer but always keeps the ball moving in the right direction. If that means he's out of form then I have no clue what the argument is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, oldishowl said: Where have I said we should play Abdi instead of Bannan. That is not even the position Abdi would be best in. However Bannan got a lot of things wrong today and Abdi did well when he came on. Why are people having a go at him This" never passes it forward" is a complete myth. He is just a different type of player I have faith that once he is fit/confident he will be as loved and valuable to us as FF and Lee, but at this moment in time he is slowing down the play to pass it where it would have landed without him taking a touch or right back where it came from. I love our possession football, I imagine he will prove to us he didn't get the nickname by passing sideways or backwards either! But right now, he's not at his best. This isn't a send him back thread, more so in my view a can (and will) do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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