zakswfc Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 10-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Top 10 but not easy to say where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 It's interesting that quite a few see us finishing anywhere from 10th upwards to the edge of the play offs. That we just missed out last year, although of course, we did finish 6th, hasn't convinced people that we can go one better this time. Why is this? Perhaps our poor start, we said we needed to get off to a much better start than last season, and in fact, we've made a worse start. Are people not convinced by our recruitment, or simply we haven't done enough? Is it just a case of, the opposition has got stronger? Certainly the spending power of the three relegated clubs has set the bar much higher than it was last season. Maybe there are some who think, we were the surprise package in the division last year, and perhaps overachieved. i guess for me, it's a little bit of all of those things, but based on what I've seen, and looking at our current squad, I couldn't confidently predict that we will go one better this time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, BenitoCarbone said: Based on what we have shown so far: 19th Based on our squads potential: 2nd i would say our squad potential is easily top six... the 'team' is being held back... it's not been helped by the bloke who should be vying for top scoring spot looking unfit and overweight... and not being helped any further by the bloke who is 'looking unfit and overweight' actually being the 'top scorer'... WE HAVE A GREAT NEED TO SIT THE FORWARDS DOWN AND ASK THE QUESTION 'WHAT SORT OF BALL DO YOU NEED?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 27 minutes ago, gurujuan said: It's interesting that quite a few see us finishing anywhere from 10th upwards to the edge of the play offs. That we just missed out last year, although of course, we did finish 6th, hasn't convinced people that we can go one better this time. Why is this? Perhaps our poor start, we said we needed to get off to a much better start than last season, and in fact, we've made a worse start. Are people not convinced by our recruitment, or simply we haven't done enough? Is it just a case of, the opposition has got stronger? Certainly the spending power of the three relegated clubs has set the bar much higher than it was last season. Maybe there are some who think, we were the surprise package in the division last year, and perhaps overachieved. i guess for me, it's a little bit of all of those things, but based on what I've seen, and looking at our current squad, I couldn't confidently predict that we will go one better this time around we haven't recruited strongly in area's perceived to be 'in need of the most attention' by onlookers... we have recruited 'strongly' in m/f, and perhaps 'struggled' with the 'set up'... the strength of the opposition has increased by 'sussing' us, and in return it's our management teams (or carlos if you want another name for it) responsibility to adapt to that situation... so far we have show no sign that we will... any side playing us, and standing about watching us, then trying to out football us, will likely get a proper beating... but they won't be many of those... we'll see sides introduce a 'fast high tempo, physical game', with more aerial play as an aspect, hitting us quickly on the bounce whilst we have 'numbers' committed upfield...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 19 hours ago, BIG D said: We've added Abdi, Jones and Fletcher to a team that missed out in the play off final and this is poor recruitment? No this is not poor recruitment this is good recruitment as these 3 would get in almost any team in the league. However central midfield and centre forward were positions we were good in already. Yes we have improved in these areas but we needed this type of quality at full back and out wide. That's where the poor recruitment comment comes from. I know we need a squad but im still a believer that a settled side will bring us the best results. How do you have a settled side when you have 4 cm of the class we have ?? That could be our downfall this year but I do predict we will finish 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 41 Games to play, so owt can happen in that time, but based on the 1ts 5 games only, we will do well to finish mid table around 10th which, after last seasons promise, should be deemed a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Dutch McLovin said: No this is not poor recruitment this is good recruitment as these 3 would get in almost any team in the league. However central midfield and centre forward were positions we were good in already. Yes we have improved in these areas but we needed this type of quality at full back and out wide. That's where the poor recruitment comment comes from. I know we need a squad but im still a believer that a settled side will bring us the best results. How do you have a settled side when you have 4 cm of the class we have ?? That could be our downfall this year but I do predict we will finish 6th. hope you're correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 11 hours ago, Owls77 said: September is a massive month, all winnable games. By the end of it should give us an indication! If if we do not address our weak links (wingers and full backs) think we might just fall short! Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 15 minutes ago, dnhc said: i would say our squad potential is easily top six... the 'team' is being held back... it's not been helped by the bloke who should be vying for top scoring spot looking unfit and overweight... and not being helped any further by the bloke who is 'looking unfit and overweight' actually being the 'top scorer'... WE HAVE A GREAT NEED TO SIT THE FORWARDS DOWN AND ASK THE QUESTION 'WHAT SORT OF BALL DO YOU NEED?' A round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just now, adelphi1867 said: A round one. are you carlos? as i think that's his 'understanding' of the 'issue'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 11 hours ago, AlbertOB said: So far we have lost to Leeds, Burton and scraped a draw at Brenttord..................not looking good...............unless there is significant improvement we will be fighting relegation.....I hope not but on current form thats the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertOB Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 6 hours ago, CrosbyKitchens said: Jesus wept. scraped a draw? We could and probably should have won at least 2 of the last three games. yes scraped............we were losing until the 93rd minute maybe we should have won all 3 but we didnt.........unfortunately theres no points for "should have won" games Im hoping its "rub of the green" and soon we will start knocking them in.........or have we been rumbled and the opposition know how to set up to beat us..........a la Leeds and Rotherham last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WezOwl1989 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 3 rd or 4 th ... Been unlucky , should of beat Brentford and Leeds with the chances we had, if we had we'd be 3rd now and everyone would be happy, we will come good I'm sure .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Claw Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Put my bet on before the season started we'd go up as champions! Probably not going to happen but hey Ho. Still very early days though and the overall signs are starting to peek through again. First half at Brentford sounded extremely promising apart from the finishing, so i still reckon it'll come good. I still think we need a PROVEN, guaranteed (if there is such a thing) striker. Someone mentioned McCormack and yeah i have never been his biggest admirer, but if he does come good and gets vital goals he'll be a hero for them and maybe we won't be quite so self congratulatory for not going for him. (Not that i'm saying we should have). Same with the Rhodes situation. Plenty on here smugly proclaiming we were the finished article up front after signing Hooper but was clear as day we'd struggle when any individual was either injured, suspended or off form, which in our case, across the board was quite often. Still think we'll be top six, maybe better if other fancied teams flatter to deceive. Need genuine consistent finishing power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark77 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 We had 5 points after 5 games last year, and then lost and drew the next two. We finished 6th. plenty of time, like last year we are integrating new players. 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Having slept on it, would like to change my prediction to 8th to 10th. However, the next few days could change that. Need to bring in real quality in the next 80 or so hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 8th. Similar to last season but our inability to win matches ugly will cost us valuable points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 We'll easily come in the top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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