Lawrie Madden Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: He got 15 minutes at a point in the game where either team could have won. Hes also playing for his place in the starting 11. You cant expect him to look a world beater and totally change the game in such a short period. I dont and i like him as a player and am glad we got him But having said that if he's to stake a claim to either Bannans or Lees' shirt he has to show much more than he has done so far Vydra was possibly the best player i saw at S6 the season before last and when he was available last season i was praying for us to break the bank to get him but we didn't Reading did and all that fabulous form he'd shown for Watford deserted him and it was huge loan fee peed up the wall Basing Abdis form for Watford as a reason to bin one of our 3 or 4 best players of the last couple of season is madness to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said: I dont and i like him as a player and am glad we got him But having said that if he's to stake a claim to either Bannans or Lees' shirt he has to show much more than he has done so far Vydra was possibly the best player i saw at S6 the season before last and when he was available last season i was praying for us to break the bank to get him but we didn't Reading did and all that fabulous form he'd shown for Watford deserted him and it was huge loan fee peed up the wall Basing Abdis form for Watford as a reason to bin one of our 3 or 4 best players of the last couple of season is madness to me Its a discussion that'll just keep going round and round...... Abdi has hardly had a sniff in his proper position - how good would Lee be wide right? Lee & BB are great in our midfield, they were part of a team last season that made 6th, comfortably, but never really threatened to finish any higher. This season we are looking to improve, hence the recruitment. So IMO it's fair argument that the new recruits should be given a fair chance. If we were top of the league then fair enough, leave it as is - but we've lost 3 games in 9 and got out of jail 3 times to win. We look good at times, very good too, but we're struggling to take our chances when on top. Ok that can be argued it's the strikers at fault, admittedly they aren't scoring enough, but attack builds from midfield and we play better football coming through that area than wing play and crosses. Again, I'm in no way knocking BB or Lee, great players both - but given the chance we just might discover that we have players better than either / both those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 PIck the best/most in form players in their best positions. If its a choice then between Lee, Bannan or Abdi for one spot in central midfield ( and it would be for me 'cos I'd have Hutch in there) then at the moment Bannan and Abdi would be waiting in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Essix Blue said: ................................................................. ............... I'm in no way knocking BB or Lee, great players both - but given the chance we just might discover that we have players better than either / both those 2. Good point....... and if that day comes then hopefully CC will play the best players in their best positions rather than trying to accommodate 'favourites' in roles that they're uncomfortable with or ineffective in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 4 hours ago, Lawrie Madden said: You did see which player won us the match yesterday right ? You did see when that post was made didn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I just don't get the Lee at right back thing at all. Would be absolutely wasted there. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin West's Quiff Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 As I believe reach is at lb . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshowl Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 15 hours ago, McRightSide said: And that is why CC is in charge... DROP LEE! I said Bannan and Lee are untouchable at their best. At that point they weren't at their best, smart arse - and still aren't, but performing closer to the levels we saw last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 7 hours ago, Cheshowl said: I said Bannan and Lee are untouchable at their best. At that point they weren't at their best, smart arse - and still aren't, but performing closer to the levels we saw last season. Nibble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 My only issue with Bannan and Lee is that I don't think the protect the defence enough especially on the counter. I also think when Abdi plays we keep the ball better. We have conceded 12 goals so far this season, only 3 when Abdi has been on pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, jonnyowl said: My only issue with Bannan and Lee is that I don't think the protect the defence enough especially on the counter. I also think when Abdi plays we keep the ball better. We have conceded 12 goals so far this season, only 3 when Abdi has been on pitch! Lee made one of the highest amount of interceptions in the league last year. Probably because he doesn't go steaming into every tackle even when he wont win it like Hutch people don't notice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, jonnyowl said: My only issue with Bannan and Lee is that I don't think the protect the defence enough especially on the counter. I also think when Abdi plays we keep the ball better. We have conceded 12 goals so far this season, only 3 when Abdi has been on pitch! We have only scored 4 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, jonnyowl said: My only issue with Bannan and Lee is that I don't think the protect the defence enough especially on the counter. I also think when Abdi plays we keep the ball better. We have conceded 12 goals so far this season, only 3 when Abdi has been on pitch! True. We look a much more solid side when Abdi plays as a narrow left sided midfielder. Similar to last season with Bannan in that role. Whenever we move away from that and play with 2 wingers and 2 out and out forwards, we concede goals for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BRADFIELDOWLS Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Talking of modern football, Fletch is now our Muller how he moves upfront, can score and set up others. Once Reach and Buckley are ready to be played on wings to get crosses in like BAYERN do, we will mulla someone. But 4 - 5 - 1 for me tomorrow, until 70 th minute or unless they score first. Sign MANCIENNE in January and its top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 It's not always about being a world beater it's about what's best for the team. I like most love Bannan and thought he would be better centrally this year... However, I now do not think this is the case. He is a very creative player and in CM sits far too deep and plays a role that doesn't suit us or him. He needs to effect the play in the final third not play as a quarter back who doesn't offer much in the way of cover for the back four. He should have a spell on the sidelines in my opinion. Witg Abdi he came on for 15 mins and played 15 yards higher up the pitch than Bannan. Played every ball easy and tried to play them forward and always offered an option. While this seems basic it allowed other players (Lee bombing on and full backs getting in the final third) to flourish putting the opposition under pressure and eventually resulting in us getting the winner. Ok that might not be anything special to the naked eye but it essentially contributed to us winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Woodie said: Lee made one of the highest amount of interceptions in the league last year. Probably because he doesn't go steaming into every tackle even when he wont win it like Hutch people don't notice ? where is that stat from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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