gurujuan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 38 minutes ago, SiJ said: I think Fletcher on paper is a really good signing. Describing him as our worst singing in years is pretty moronic imo. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Players we have brought in are all very good, but I agree we haven't ticked all the boxes we needed to tick. Fletcher and Buckley I think have added something different but the others are in the same mould as we already had. Abdi should be viewed differently if played as an attacking central mid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 All we really needed was a beast at CB and a DMF. Instead we have fannied around with flair players that have eaten up all our budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 18 minutes ago, SiJ said: I think Fletcher on paper is a really good signing. Describing him as our worst singing in years is pretty moronic imo. He will come good, adds some presence in there but we haven't had any real sustained periods of pressure and we seem to use him more as a link player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, modboy said: All we really needed was a beast at CB and a DMF. Instead we have fannied around with flair players that have eaten up all our budget Hopefully our budget still has enough slack in it to rectify those shortcomings Slightly worried though, that Carlos doesn't see the same issues as some of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 re: Fletcher... He had a decent game today IMO. It didn't help the midfield were sat so deep he had no runners off him. Can't fault his hold up play. Decent turn of pace over 10-15 yards too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Crying out for someone with pace out wide so wallace can be benched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, modboy said: All we really needed was a beast at CB and a DMF. Instead we have fannied around with flair players that have eaten up all our budget The flair players win promotion The rugged "beasts" stop you getting relegated No problem with upgrading our flair players - the problem is that they aren't being used correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, scram said: The flair players win promotion The rugged "beasts" stop you getting relegated No problem with upgrading our flair players - the problem is that they aren't being used correctly Didn't the rugged "beasts" make the difference in the play off final? Appreciate it's one game in isolation, but surely a midfield enforcer (who can play a bit) wouldn't go amiss? Admittedly it's very easy suggesting these improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SiJ said: Didn't the rugged "beasts" make the difference in the play off final? Appreciate it's one game in isolation, but surely a midfield enforcer (who can play a bit) wouldn't go amiss? Admittedly it's very easy suggesting these improvements. Yes, it's the balance we have wrong Edited August 20, 2016 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Just now, SiJ said: Didn't the rugged "beasts" make the difference in the play off final? Appreciate it's one game in isolation, but surely a midfield enforcer (who can play a bit) wouldn't go amiss? Admittedly it's very easy suggesting these improvements. These players cost a lot of money. A big defensive midfield player, who can pass, score, tackle, cover ground- pretty sure Carlos or any manager would love a player like that, do we have a spare 10 million quid to go out and get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 29 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: These players cost a lot of money. A big defensive midfield player, who can pass, score, tackle, cover ground- pretty sure Carlos or any manager would love a player like that, do we have a spare 10 million quid to go out and get one? If we can afford a creative player like Abdi, a good signing by the way, then surely bringing in a defensive midfielder shouldn't be a problem. More likely we don't have one because Carlos doesn't believe we need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: These players cost a lot of money. A big defensive midfield player, who can pass, score, tackle, cover ground- pretty sure Carlos or any manager would love a player like that, do we have a spare 10 million quid to go out and get one? Nope. Probably not. It's something we are missing though, no doubt. Reckon me and you could take on Lee, Bannan and Abdi in a scrap...albeit Bannan would hack away at the shins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I was an advocate for signing Jedinak - would have been perfect Unfortunately it seems some of our fans cant handle the fact there are better players out there who don't play for us - "where would he play" etc etc Same as Bannan/Lee - it's almost sacrosanct that they play central - we have a better player so one of them must make way I said that last season was an unusally weak championship - we'll need to do better just to stand still Some fans got totally carried away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EveryWednesday Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Have we not just strengthened positions we're already strong in? I really hope our dealings arent over, especially as teams know they can bully us or close us down. If they stop us playing to feet they've won half the battle. We have no pacey forward to pump it to if our usual lovely flowing style is curtailed by some decent closing Our fullbacks can't cross. I mean, look at it - hunt, Pudil, palmer, helan. Which team would have them in a promotion side? And at CB sasso is cover for champ level at best Ahhhhggg Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, scram said: The flair players win promotion The rugged "beasts" stop you getting relegated No problem with upgrading our flair players - the problem is that they aren't being used correctly Need both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I have to say...playing Abdi on the left wing is farcical imho. Either that or change the system so he can play more centrally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 After the villa game, Ian Holloway told Carlos that a club the size of Wednesday should be able to put key players on the bench. Perhaps this is what he was getting at. We want to play everyone but they don't fit, then there is also no one pushing them if they are all playing. I dont expect anything to change on recruitment though. We don't want any more centre halves so Hutchinson will not get to play midfield until loovens comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: After the villa game, Ian Holloway told Carlos that a club the size of Wednesday should be able to put key players on the bench. Perhaps this is what he was getting at. We want to play everyone but they don't fit, then there is also no one pushing them if they are all playing. I dont expect anything to change on recruitment though. We don't want any more centre halves so Hutchinson will not get to play midfield until loovens comes back. I wonder if his stubbornness will be his undoing. Hope not, because, for the most part, he's been a breath of fresh air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 I'm not knocking Fletcher but we missed a trick not signing Glenn Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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