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#1 madowl47

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:20 PM

In my opinion he was one of the best players we've ever had. What energy he had box to box was so easy for him.

Many non-owls have often said how on earth did he get picked for England. I always say you had to see him week in week out to recognise how good he was.

His England place was richly deserved and at that time for the job he had to do I would not have swapped him for any other player in the top division.




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#2 modboy

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

VERY good, if only we had him now... even second time around he still improved the team
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#3 DobbinTheDonkey

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

A true irreplaceable player.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

He was first class. Pissed teams off, created loads of opportunities, and was very consistent. Nothing but good memories of Carlton playing.
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#5 HIGHERSTATE

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

Id go as far to say he was the backbone of that team for a couple of years...both in an attacking and defensive sense..

And I also used to enjoy his funny shots on goal..

I was also conviced he was stoned most of the time.
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#6 rob chester

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:36 PM

A real team player.

Edited by rob chester, 20 February 2012 - 05:36 PM.

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#7 modboy

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:37 PM

beginning of the end when we sold him... Taylor was never given the chance then we had Haslam etc, sort of can see where it all went wrong
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:38 PM

As important to the 90's team as Hirst, Waddle and Sheridan. On form he was a nightmare for opposition to play against, covered every blade of grass, broke up attacks, surged forward and tracked back. Read Johnson could easily play this role in our current side, but providing a bigger goal threat
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#9 bryan1966

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:39 PM

Excellent player in an excellent team. Never stopped running and working. He was the perfect foil for Sheridan.

Perhaps didn't score enough and was a serious wind up merchant. Remember one game where he really John Hendrie while he was at Middlesborough. Hendrie left everyone in no doubt about what he though of Palmer.

Definitely deserved his England place at the time. He got unfairly tagged possibly because Taylor was manager and scapegoats were needed during the world cup 94 qualifying campaign.
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#10 asteener1867

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:45 PM

He was similar to, but better than Reda....no offense meant...He perfectly complimented Sheridan, he won the ball with some ridiculous long legged tackles when it seemed the player had long gone, and laid it to Sheridan.,not just a ball winner though...he could run forever and simply ate up the ground with his stride....He got crosses in from ridiculous positions.
Great centre half but did not like the position...his finishing up front was fookin' awful, although he lost me money once on getting a 4th I think it was against QPR and I think he got a hattrick..I believe I had a fiver on summatt like 3-1 Wednesday...and he went through....no worries i thought...he finished it like fookin' Pele.
It was sad that he was suspended for the league cup final in '91 cos he played such a large part in getting us there, but I remember him saying the reception he got from the fans made up for it...
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#11 HIGHERSTATE

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:46 PM

because Taylor was manager and scapegoats were needed during the world cup 94 qualifying campaign.


Also think his unconventional stature, his running style and freakish height made him a target...Never was going to be a poster boy was he..

oh for another carlton.
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#12 asteener1867

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

Plus he got us into a load of trouble on the Shoreham with an equaliser....think it was a header from about 20 yds out (the mind plays tricks)...one o them times when you should sit on yer hands but lose it in the moment....
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#13 theowlsman

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:49 PM

Without Carlton Palmer alongside him, Sheridan wouldn't have been able to do his stuff. So he was very important for us from that perspective alone
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#14 itsonmyhead

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:51 PM

how good was carlton???? think of a good thing and he was twice as good as that!! his first half hatrick is still one of my all time favourite wednesday moment's :) true legend
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 05:51 PM

Saw him on the shop video a bit back, he could take people on too. Massively underrated as your man a bit further up said, due to being part of Taylor's England team.
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#16 Rodger Wylde

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

In that team at that time doing that job, no one better in the country.
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#17 pgmetcalf

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:13 PM

Semedo is good but not a patch on Palmer
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#18 HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:29 PM

Carlton Palmer was our engine, and driving force.
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Light years ahead, on and off the pitch.


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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:33 PM

Were in not for Carlton Palmer, we couldn't have played John Sheridan and Chris Waddle in the same mid-field, he'd do the work of 3 players.
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#20 theowlsman

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:35 PM

Palmer 10/10
Semedo 7/10
Bostock 1/10
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#21 daveyboy66

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:39 PM

He was picked at centre half for England after an injury crisis...he had to mark the Rest of the World striker papin who was europe's golden boot winner...papin never had a kick and said that Carlton was the best defender he had played against
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:46 PM

Fantastic player, did everything asked of him, and more besides. Although I still have to pinch myself when I think about the QPR game in 91 :biggrin: Still dont know how he got 3
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#23 Fedor

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:47 PM

Proper hero , him and Sheridan used to boss evry midfield. Was great at breaking up play and would bust a gut to get forward at every opportunity. His ungainly style led to the criticism from outside sources.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:48 PM

I live in Nuneaton and work in Coventry when big Ron took over at coventry he took Palmer there. Every one that went to see them said (not very many of them ever went) when he was with us they thought he was rubbish but he was one of there best ever signings
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:03 PM

Longest legs in football........ever! and a cracking player to boot!
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:27 PM

Immense. The most underrated player in our history. Shortly after he left for Leeds he turned up in the away end at Blackburn. A few loons crowded round him at half time screaming "The Wednesday Hate Carlton Palmer" Even though it was a bit menacing he never batted an eyelid.

When he came back, we had kids like Stephen Haslam in midfield who were getting bullied every week. The first game he was back somebody fouled Haslam and Carlton grabbed whoever it was by the throat, which was exactly what the kids needed.
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#27 Soul Power

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:36 PM

Carlton Palmer was our engine, and driving force.

Totally agree Hootie. Never stopped running and fighting for the cause, never gave anything less than 100%, if ever the heads dropped Carlton would be going round geeing everybody back up. Never lost a 50/50 ball and most of the time won 30/70 balls cause he would just dive in and one of his long legs would come out with the ball.

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#28 wilyfox

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:42 PM

Carlton was the complete midfielder for us. box-to-box, energy, movement, work-rate, defensive ability and equally proficient carrying the ball forward. he gave us real forward drive.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:45 PM

Sometimes you don't realise what you have until its gone. Carlton was a fantastic player, underrated by almost every other team.

He could have been a truly great centre half but he was a cracking box to box midfielder.

Him and Sheridan made a dream midfield partnership.
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#30 DJMortimer

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:45 PM

He was picked at centre half for England after an injury crisis...he had to mark the Rest of the World striker papin who was europe's golden boot winner...papin never had a kick and said that Carlton was the best defender he had played against

Me and my brother used to rate the players after every game for three or four seasons. We only ever gave out a perfect 20 a handful of times but one of those was for Palmer playing in central defence against the Blades at Wembley in 1993.

I'm glad to see him getting proper credit for what he did for us. He was ungainly, arrogant, little goal threat and a target for England fans not bright enough to see what he brought to the team. But the truth is he was enormously influential for us and allowed the flair players to do their stuff while he put in the graft.
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#31 Animis

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

astonishing footballer - had never seen anything like him before nor since - a unique player who fitted into the team which was then built around him. Big Ron adored him and that's good enough for me.

Always remember the equaliser at Oakwell 90, when it looked like the game was slipping away, and the equalisler at Ayresome Park when again it looked like we fooked up in the league cup. A true ledgend
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:24 PM

And he was the recipient of one of the best and most original Wednesday songs ever of course.

Edited by Shaunnie, 20 February 2012 - 08:24 PM.

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#33 modboy

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

i would say he was the most important player in our glory years, yes the flair of Waddle and Shez or finishing of Hirsty but Carlton was the glue that bonded it all together
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

In my opinion he was one of the best players we've ever had. What energy he had box to box was so easy for him.

Many non-owls have often said how on earth did he get picked for England. I always say you had to see him week in week out to recognise how good he was.

His England place was richly deserved and at that time for the job he had to do I would not have swapped him for any other player in the top division.

fully agree them cross field runs he did devastated the opposision he also had a good touch, his finishing got better and better and he was awesome when called on in central defence, its only lazy journalism when writers say he was poo poo
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#35 Bukta

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:39 PM

He had such a small and unusual shaped head, he was able to score headers from 25 yards out.

Astonishing player, you can't compare him to anyone. A one off.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:48 PM

Used to back him every game to score first - didn't win much.

Was typical of BFRs team at that time, could play, worked hard and played harder. Was an absolute dream a few years ago when me n a few off here (fattybear, Grandad and others) got on Soccer AM (back when it was good) and CP was one of the guests. But they wouldn't let us sing his song.

CARLTON. HIT LES, DEMAND IT!!!!
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#37 Will Kirby

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:51 PM

To this day I still get into arguments with people about Carlton Palmer. He was a superb player, could absolutely destroy teams, and fully deserved to be in the England set-up, doubly so when you consider he was a very handy centre-back too.
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#38 Essix Blue

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:54 PM

TBF England were shyt at the time.
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#39 Will Kirby

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 08:55 PM

Incidentally, why was he sold? Did he want to go to Leeds, did the manager not like him? Could never work that transfer out.

TBF England were shyt at the time.


Indeed - but for some reason Palmer gets the blame for that, when he was a lot better than many of the shysters that got capped under Taylor.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:02 PM

Remember that header he scored against Everton!! Absolutely loved the man.

When I watched us get dumped out of the FA cup to Wimbledon in 97, he was sat right behind us, top bloke.

We've never replaced him but Semedo is a candidate for the job.

"One of the longest headers I've seen at a match was Carlton Palmer for Sheffield Wednesday against Everton at Goodison in 1993-1994," says Iain McCluskey. "Palmer headed it miles up in the air from about 22 yards. It looked like it was drifting over until it dipped wickedly at the end, and tucked under a motionless Neville Southall's bar."
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#41 gurujuan

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:07 PM

Quite simply my favourite Wednesday player of all time. Carlton was the glue that held that side together
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:10 PM

Megson's pulled off a bit of a coup by signing Semedo though A totally different player to Carlton but just the type of player we've needed for a while
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:35 PM

He was brilliant for us wherever he played and a true legend but if he had stuck to centre half i reckon he could have been a England Legend as well . he was that good .
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:40 PM

With Sheridan and Palmer we had such a good combination.

The joke used to be that Palmer would tell Shez that he could not run....and he would reply but you can't pass.

Often thought if we grafted Sheridans head on to Palmers body we would have the best payer in the world...ever!

Never mind with those two we had a a seriously good midfield unit. Oh they were happy days!
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#45 Mike Oxlong

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:43 PM

Better than Viera.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:43 PM

i used to love carlton.

what a player.

he got fitter as the match went on. Never seen a player cover so uch of the pitch. good in attack, defence and everything.

him leaving was the begginning of our demise imo.
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#47 Johnbloodaxe

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:49 PM

Very tall very long legs... ooops sorry wrong thread...

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:50 PM

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#49 Prendo's boots

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:20 PM

...was THE engine room of Rons team ....used to love watching him...not a quiet lad on or off the pitch either!!!...reckon his best goal was the winner away at his old club The Baggies...injury time I think...watch the vid if you can find it...look at us all piling about behind the goal!!!....Brilliant!!!...
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 10:23 PM

Better than Viera.


Not in the same league as Viera.

Good player, and perfect foil for Sheridan. Very underrated as a centre half.
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