ThisCityIsOurs88 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 He's been off the boil for a while for me. No doubt he's a good player on his day. It needs addressing this summer or we're just throwing a big wage down the drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Sorry to say but carvahal got it wrong Saturday...hopper needed a full time partner!! Joao or nuhiu. He was to isolated and Dawson n Davies are very good centre halves. Hard work for hooper...easy work for the two hull lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) Watched the game in full last night. Hoopers performance, workrate, attitude, body language, little strops were embarrasing. He's a fair weather player who plays for himself. The history of football is littered by self-centered stroppy strikers, who hate it when they are not scoring, and are only happy when they are.If you look at his website (yes his own website - there is a clue to his character flaws there) it is pretty clear he sees success in terms of goals scored. But do you know what, I couldnt give two hoots. I want my striker to hate goalless games and barren runs. I want my striker to be arrogant when it goes well and angry when it doesnt. I can only begin to imagine how frustrated he must be right now. We found a way to play which gave him the freedom of Hillsborough, then we threw it away. Imagine how elated he must have felt after Cardiff. Back to playing alongside a partner after 9 games without a goal alongside Fessi. He scores two, hands the third to Joao for a one inch tap in, then finds himself back to square one for the play-offs. Not surprised he got stroppy. Edited May 30, 2016 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 If Forestieri had played Hooper in instead of trying do it all himself, Hooper would had smashed it in and this thread wouldn't exist . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Its a football forum. Imo Westwood stood out for a good performance, hoopers attitude & workrate made him stand out for the opposite. He's a complete individual, not a team player. Good enough when things are going good, but cant or wont roll his sleeve up. Wouldnt want him anywhere near my dressing room. We need better and comitted players. Celtic is the perfect team for him; favourites every week. Not a hard slog in the championship. Sorry, I can't recall ever reading a positive thread by you, hence my post. Everyone except Westwood stood out as being under-par. It happens. Hull had a plan and executed it well. I can barely recall us having the ball in Hull's final third after the first 30 mins, and that is where Hooper does his work - if that ball is rarely there, how do you expect him to do his job? We seem to play better with Forestieri out wide, with Hooper having Nuhiu or Joao next to him. That's when we are the most effective and that is when Hooper is effective. Not sure why Carlos isn't playing that set up, but he knows more than both of us out together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 He was poor but then so was Hernadez for them. Two well organised defences and they had more about them to get at ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Sorry to say but carvahal got it wrong Saturday...hopper needed a full time partner!! Joao or nuhiu. He was to isolated and Dawson n Davies are very good centre halves. Hard work for hooper...easy work for the two hull lads This sums hooper for me. Managers tactics maybe wrong for hooper Partner not right for hooper Service (midfield) not right for hooper defenders to strong for hooper So what, roll your sleeves & put the effort in. For hooper, its all about hooper. Lazy mardy bums arent what you need in our league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl14 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Watched the game in full last night. Hoopers performance, workrate, attitude, body language, little strops were embarrasing. He's a fair weather player who plays for himself. When the going gets tough and need players to standup, Hooper is useless. No surprise he did well at Celtic, but failed at Norwich. He's a good finisher, awful player & attitude. Personally hope he's not here next year. Completely agree his work rate and ethic is poor and personally I think he is lazy which has shown throughout the season and I don't know if it just because it's because he's a dad now but if it continues into next year then I can see him being dropped tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 He's a frustrating player but a very useful one to have in the squad. Get the feeling that if we want to progress we need to use him a little more sparingly. A bit like Norwich did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 his game is about scoring goals and his record stands up ....i dont know what is attitude is like as ive never met him but he seems to try his best to me and its only 4 games ago he was outstanding giving one of the best forward displays ive seen in a long time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Seems like everyone is getting it from our shortsighted fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think he would benefit from a proper pre season. He was very unfit when he came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 This sums hooper for me. Managers tactics maybe wrong for hooper Partner not right for hooper Service (midfield) not right for hooper defenders to strong for hooper So what, roll your sleeves & put the effort in. For hooper, its all about hooper. Lazy mardy bums arent what you need in our league. I have worked with lazy, mardy, obnoxious, miserable, bigheaded, pigheaded arrisholes that you wouldcross the street to avoid outside work. But they were superb at their job, and worth their weight in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) Our best setup is Hooper up front with Joao/Aty, Fernando on the left, Bannan in the middle. Hooper is significantly better when Fernando is in the left, Fernando is miles better when he's on the left and Bannan is better in the middle. We lost the game yesterday when the team was announced. Fernando is a winger and shouldn't be partnered up front with Hooper. Edited May 30, 2016 by ohgoditsjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Disappointing latter stages of the season. Like to see us explore other options, but keep him as backup. Doesn't attack the box enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett11 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Like other have said, play him with a big powerful striker and he will bag 15-20. My picks would be either Gestede or Chris Martin (never been a huge fan of his but he has proven himself as a target man and goalscorer in championship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) Our best setup is Hooper up front with Joao/Aty, Fernando on the left, Bannan in the middle. Hooper is significantly better when Fernando is in the left, Fernando is miles better when he's on the left and Bannan is better in the middle. We lost the game yesterday when the team was announced. Fernando is a winger and shouldn't be partnered up front with Hooper. So it's Carlos' fault we didn't go up then? Give it a rest. That set up has served us well on plenty of occasions, especially against the top sides. The players didn't turn up and a team packed with PL quality were too strong for us. That's why we lost. Edited May 30, 2016 by IstillhateSteveBould Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) People moaning about his work rate make me laugh. Did you go to the Cardiff game? Edited May 30, 2016 by ohgoditsjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohgoditsjames Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 So it's Carlos' fault we didn't go up then? Give it a rest. That set up has served us well on plenty of occasions, especially against the top sides. The players didn't turn up and a team packed with PL quality were too strong for us. That's why we lost. I'm not "blaming" Carlos, I just think he made a mistake or two which is very rare for him. I think he's fantastic and proud to have him as our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Sorry, I can't recall ever reading a positive thread by you, hence my post. Everyone except Westwood stood out as being under-par. It happens. Hull had a plan and executed it well. I can barely recall us having the ball in Hull's final third after the first 30 mins, and that is where Hooper does his work - if that ball is rarely there, how do you expect him to do his job? We seem to play better with Forestieri out wide, with Hooper having Nuhiu or Joao next to him. That's when we are the most effective and that is when Hooper is effective. Not sure why Carlos isn't playing that set up, but he knows more than both of us out together. Is it negative to have the opinion that to have a go at the top 2, hooper, nuhiu & joao aren,t good enough. Or positive to suggest ff is and we need better? I think suggesting change is positive. Think we need at least 1 centre half and new full backs - shoot me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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