shandypants Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Tom Lee's was unwanted at Leeds, Keiren Westwood was unwanted at Sunderland, Lewis McGugan is unwanted at Watford. Can we have some more unwanted players please Stu? Edited March 27, 2015 by shandypants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest (OvO) Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Granted, Gray has done well. But shouldn't we now start going for players that teams want??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaskedowl Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) we'll get no-one Shandy. edit - NOONE! bugger. Edited March 27, 2015 by themaskedowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Granted, Gray has done well. But shouldn't we now start going for players that teams want??? Other teams probably would have liked the 3 players mentioned above, but for whatever reason couldn't compete, or weren't quick enough to get them. I am certain every League 1 and 2 club would have jumped at the chance to sign any of these players for instance, but it was unrealistic. Buying a player from a club, who wants to retain that player, doesn't necessarily make them any better does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Squads are so big nowadays and manager turnover is so high that the team tactics are ever changing, with that comes a need for different types of player and subsequently good players then fall out of favour. I have absolutely no issue picking up other teams unwanted players if they are of the same calibre as Lees, Westwood and McGugan. Adding a £3million price tag and having a bit of a tug of war in the press doesn't guarantee that player will be a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Squads are so big nowadays and manager turnover is so high that the team tactics are ever changing, with that comes a need for different types of player and subsequently good players then fall out of favour. I have absolutely no issue picking up other teams unwanted players if they are of the same calibre as Lees, Westwood and McGugan. Adding a £3million price tag and having a bit of a tug of war in the press doesn't guarantee that player will be a success. Yeah, totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Money doesn't equal success in this league. It just contributes towards it. Buying the right players and putting together a compatible team...that will equal success. If we continue to rejuvenate careers then I'm all for that. Lees and McGugan are shrewd signings. They're top end championship quality but wouldn't look out of place in a lower end premier league team. We definitely need to spend money this summer. But look at Fulham. They spent 11m on a striker and they're not better off for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Money doesn't equal success in this league. It just contributes towards it. Buying the right players and putting together a compatible team...that will equal success. If we continue to rejuvenate careers then I'm all for that. Lees and McGugan are shrewd signings. They're top end championship quality but wouldn't look out of place in a lower end premier league team. We definitely need to spend money this summer. But look at Fulham. They spent 11m on a striker and they're not better off for it. He has scored 2 more goals than Nuhiu, which either put Nuhius value at around £9M, or McCormacks at "thas had wull pulled o'er thee eyes". 10 points worse off than us too. I agree though we do need to spend money, but like you said FO, shrewd signings, not marquee ones. I really don't get (OvO)s' comment. Or the 3 question marks used!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaskedowl Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Squads are so big nowadays and manager turnover is so high that the team tactics are ever changing, with that comes a need for different types of player and subsequently good players then fall out of favour. I have absolutely no issue picking up other teams unwanted players if they are of the same calibre as Lees, Westwood and McGugan. Adding a £3million price tag and having a bit of a tug of war in the press doesn't guarantee that player will be a success. Spot on Herb. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It isn't how much you spend, more, value for money. We could spend £3-4m + wages on Ricky Lambert, but is that money well spent or just an expensive gamble?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 aren't all of our players unwanted by their previous clubs? We've had some reyt freebies though - Kirkland, loovens, Gooch, Gardner, Llera, all signed as free or unattached players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest owl from retford Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Would like to add knockaert to that list but cant see him coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKingIsAGod Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I would rather pick up 11 not wanted players on a free like these 3 than spend £10m on players "wanted" by their parent club. Aldridge got a big job on his hands in the summer not to get fleeced by clubs. Watford could bump up the price of McGugan. Simply cause: 1. They know how important he is to us 2. He has attracted interest from other clubs 3. They know we have been taken over amd have money to spend. 4. Dont need him off their books financially Question is how much is too much? Edited March 27, 2015 by Robert Thomas Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TommyTank Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Problem we have with McGugan and this is why we should have done it in January, most contracts signed in the Championship are with a promotion pay rise. We could find ourselves priced out If Watford go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Problem we have with McGugan and this is why we should have done it in January, most contracts signed in the Championship are with a promotion pay rise. We could find ourselves priced out If Watford go up. Yeah that could be a worry. I don't understand why, rather than splash the money on those players in January, we didn't, first try to secure McGugan permanently Edited March 27, 2015 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLS about that? Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Granted, Gray has done well. But shouldn't we now start going for players that teams want??? Erm no. If they want them then they wont sell them. We've not exactly got the pulling power of Real Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TommyTank Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Yeah that could be a worry. I don't understand why, rather than splash the money on those players in January, we didn't, first try to secure McGugan permanently Yep, Maybe before ratification Milan didn't want to make such an expensive commitment, i get it but it could mean we lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TommyTank Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Erm no. If they want them then they wont sell them. We've not exactly got the pulling power of Real Madrid This is the problem we have now, some of our fanbase are talking like we are the big fish in the Championship with this investment. However, we are yet to see any proof that we will even become competitive with the top 6. Many are sprinting like F'k but in reality we have only just got back to our feet, maybe we start to walk first and maybe by the end of next season we will be breaking into a jog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agree with Herb. Lees is a classic example of this. Hockaday comes in and wants footballing centre halfs so they let a bloody good defender go only to sack their manager weeks later. DJ said a simar thing about Batth and that was why we weren't that interested in signing him. Mcgugan is another good example as is Another Watford midfielder, Fabrini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Agree with Herb. Lees is a classic example of this. Hockaday comes in and wants footballing centre halfs so they let a bloody good defender go only to sack their manager weeks later. DJ said a simar thing about Batth and that was why we weren't that interested in signing him. Mcgugan is another good example as is Another Watford midfielder, Fabrini. It's crazy isn't it. Clubs changing their whole ethos and approach every 10 months with a new manager. I really hope we choose a DoF that believes in a certain style and approach that will be consistent regardless of who the manager/head coach is. The days of sweeping changes every Summer should be gone after this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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