Guest Maxine Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They never stop singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Stewart Gray can hear the back of the kop. Stewart gi us a wave Stewart Stewart gi us a wave. Think it's more the distant tune he'll recognise than distinctively hearing the actual words. And obviously if enough people sing the players will hear it. But in terms of getting an 'atmosphere going' it can't really happen on a match to match basis because the Kops singing section is right at the back. Palace's singing section is at the bottom of their main stand behind the net. Man Utd opened a designated standing/singing section, and their atmosphere has improved so much because they now have 3 or 4 thousand fans in one section of Old Trafford who are all singing from the same hymn sheet. This projects to the rest of the stadium & they can join in. I think Man City are dong a similar thing. Our issue is that we have two sections of the stadium where most of the singers/standers reside. They're both in the far corners of the stadium, and there isn't enough of them in either stand to generate what I would call an atmosphere. When you've got a massive stadium, but you don't fill it often, you need your atmosphere coming from somewhere everyone can see & hear. Eventually if we manage to replicate something like what they have at Selhurst Park/Old Trafford people will start to notice, our attendances will start to creep up. It has to come from the Kop though. And it has to, literally, start from the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 They never stop singing. I have had an ST on the bottom of the Kop for going on 5 seasons now. Usually all I can hear from the top of the Kop is the drums, the trumpets and distant murmurings of a song. So much so that when 'If you don't flippingbounce starts' I have to turn around to see if they are actually singing that song, or singing 'at the lane at the lane' - I literally sometimes can't hear the words of songs. Obviously it's different when we score. But I don't want us to become a 'you only sing when you're winning' team. (not counting away days obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Does anyone know why the band weren't there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maxine Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well the singers do a great job it's a shame people don't join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well the singers do a great job it's a shame people don't join in. The singers do what they can. But it's not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSwfc12 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I have had an ST on the bottom of the Kop for going on 5 seasons now. Usually all I can hear from the top of the Kop is the drums, the trumpets and distant murmurings of a song. So much so that when 'If you don't flippingbounce starts' I have to turn around to see if they are actually singing that song, or singing 'at the lane at the lane' - I literally sometimes can't hear the words of songs. Obviously it's different when we score. But I don't want us to become a 'you only sing when you're winning' team. (not counting away days obviously) There are a minority of us who sing most of the game at the back of the Kop, just a shame more don't join in. This is why we need a singing section to get everyone together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I have mentioned before that fans start singing and then the band joins in, overtakes and drowns out the singing. You can give allowances for a drum but the F*cking trumpets are pathetic and need shoving where the sun doesn't shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 It's like i've said time and time again,Get shot of the band Now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 We'd need a thousand people MINIMUM in the same space who are all wanting to sing to get a decent singing section going. How many people at the top of the Kop are constantly singing 200 maximum? On an away day EVERYONE is together in large numbers, that's why we are good away fans. You'd need to replicate those numbers in the same space for a similar atmosphere to get going. That's not going to happen at the top of the Kop. Why? Because of the band & the pillars. This is something I've felt passionate about for a while now. Home matches are becoming so boring. I missed yesterdays match & usually hate missing home games. With the stream yesterday I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything....I had a very similar atmosphere to Hillsborough in my house. No wonder people stay away for your average games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuthaMucker Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 We'd need a thousand people MINIMUM in the same space who are all wanting to sing to get a decent singing section going. How many people at the top of the Kop are constantly singing 200 maximum? On an away day EVERYONE is together in large numbers, that's why we are good away fans. You'd need to replicate those numbers in the same space for a similar atmosphere to get going. That's not going to happen at the top of the Kop. Why? Because of the band & the pillars. This is something I've felt passionate about for a while now. Home matches are becoming so boring. I missed yesterdays match & usually hate missing home games. With the stream yesterday I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything....I had a very similar atmosphere to Hillsborough in my house. No wonder people stay away for your average games. I only go on kop cause my mates go on there and don't want to spend the extra £4 or whatever on a better atmosphere on the north. I much prefer it on the Lepp end of the North just for the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSwfc12 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 We'd need a thousand people MINIMUM in the same space who are all wanting to sing to get a decent singing section going. How many people at the top of the Kop are constantly singing 200 maximum? On an away day EVERYONE is together in large numbers, that's why we are good away fans. You'd need to replicate those numbers in the same space for a similar atmosphere to get going. That's not going to happen at the top of the Kop. Why? Because of the band & the pillars. This is something I've felt passionate about for a while now. Home matches are becoming so boring. I missed yesterdays match & usually hate missing home games. With the stream yesterday I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything....I had a very similar atmosphere to Hillsborough in my house. No wonder people stay away for your average games. There's probably around 50 MAX singing on the Kop. 200 in a singing section would be plenty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why? Because of the band & the pillars. The PILLARS ? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Middlesbrough have got a half decent singing section now. Huddersfield trialed one against us other week. Few flags and stuff, didn't look too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm not convinced that having another band is the answer though Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm not convinced that having another band is the answer though What other band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bathgate Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I always sit at bottom of kop and people around me don't sing, I honestly dot see there mouths open unless there moaning at ref or a certain player, I usually join in with the chanting to try get them going but... Well yeah hah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMX Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Tend to agree with FlyingOwl, it would need good numbers to make a significant difference. Hope the OP gets some sort of response anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I always sit at bottom of kop and people around me don't sing, I honestly dot see there mouths open unless there moaning at ref or a certain player, I usually join in with the chanting to try get them going but... Well yeah hah The front of the kop never sings Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Why not the middle section of the kop then? Instead of being spread out wide how about all of the middle blocks on the kop is designated the singing area? I think that its just become unfashionable at home to sing. Too many people giving dirty looks to anyone trying to start off a song instead of joining in, simply cos they want to look cool with their mates. Move the "trendys" and the borin sods to the sides and get rid of the trumpets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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