FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Compare with Steve Howard - at least Howard offered something upfront. Just can't see what GTF brings to the party. We need an experienced head who can dominate and score. Not easy to find but they do exist. Do we need an experienced player. I think experience is such a cliche. Especially at this level. I just want someone who can score. Don't give a stuff whether they're 16 or 36. Most 'experienced' championship standard strikers that we'll be able to attract will come in a very similar style to GTF. The only one I may want to look at is Andy Johnson at Palace. One thing we lack up front is pace. Which we try to overly compensate for on the wings. This leads to our wingers focusing too much on their attacking duties which leads to Palmer & Helan being dreadfully exposed like yesterday. Especially when we play against teams who play 4-3-3. I'm fed up of our line ups lacking any sort of shape. May drifts onto the wing. GTF drifts in too deep & doesn't have the pace to drop back up front to support May. Maghoma and Drenthe run wherever the roger they like. McGugan clearly told to hold a deeper central midfield position. Semedo can't too far away from the half-way line. And if he does get the ball in a forward position he passes backwards. I realise I've drifted off topic. My point is that a small thing like loaning in the wrong striker in GTF has a massive knock on effect to how we play as a team. The right striker played in the right team & the whole team should slot into place. Ditto McGugan, played in behind May on Saturday and it could have been a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When you consider Gray's remit was "Not just anybody, but better than what we've got." GTF isn't that. So god knows why he's come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And he scored Reyt header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When he made his debut at Hillsborough I said it looked as though we had subbed on someone's dad out of the crowd who had won a raffle to get a run out on the pitch. He has done nothing in the past month to change that opinion. I turned to my son and said look I've just got on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have this sneaky feeling it will get extended for another month. Gray coming out and saying Gary is just getting fit, his partnership with May is looking lively and Gary will offer us more when he gets fitter. Unfortunately I think you might be right. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When you consider Gray's remit was "Not just anybody, but better than what we've got." GTF isn't that. So god knows why he's come in. Like I said. Stunk of desperation & just bringing in the only bloke available to us. It would have been more productive playing Madine & May together for the last few games. Obviously hindsight is a beautiful thing. But I said it when Madine left. We aren't scoring...why are we loaning a striker out?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When you consider Gray's remit was "Not just anybody, but better than what we've got." GTF isn't that. So god knows why he's come in. It might be been ok if it was a last minute thing that cropped up but as i mentioned we waiting 5 or 6 weeks to sign him, which is baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Unfortunately I think you might be right. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Surely not? But then again, we signed him in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheff Owl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately I think you might be right. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Well having waited the amount of time to sign him like we did, he is/was unfit and then we will just let him go back? Can't see it. Keeping him till January probably makes sense to the club/Gray/Leicester. The surprise would be if we let him go back. Edited November 23, 2014 by Sheff Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam_Baggies Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Taylor-Fletcher responds to OT comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Taylor-Fletcher responds to OT comments Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_owl_92 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 True desperation signing him. Nuhiu, Madine, May even Maghoma upfront would offer far more than GTF. Which says it all!! But with players wanting to stay and fight for their place (roughly translated as 'sit in the reserves earning £20k a week') at their parent clubs then I'm afraid we're stuck with dross like GTF or have to take gambles on youngsters such as Hallam Hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Experience ..thats why he was brought in...which is a pity cos there were hundreds we could have brought in for that without 'em having to trot out onto the pitch... I don't blame GTF but it smacks of panic from Gray..."I'll try this then"...thers no cohesive plan behind older loan players...owt they know, you're backroom staff should know anyhow, and the Championship is not a league that'll "give you a minute cos you're not as fast as you used to be"..does no favours to anyone bar the older lad thats playing in front of 20'000 instead of turnin' up for a reserve game in front of 200...does us no favours either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Gone from playing in a Championship winning team to not being good enough for us ......... ok . Some of you need a reality check, GTF is a good player, and if May hadn't got in his way yesterday this thread would probably not exist . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Gone from playing in a Championship winning team to not being good enough for us ......... ok . Some of you need a reality check, GTF is a good player, and if May hadn't got in his way yesterday this thread would probably not exist . That happens though..players get older...Would you play Hirst up front on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I didn't really see the point in having GTF here to be honest. I think even Madine up front would have made a bigger impact and won a few headers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Well having waited the amount of time to sign him like we did, he is/was unfit and then we will just let him go back? Can't see it. Keeping him till January probably makes sense to the club/Gray/Leicester. The surprise would be if we let him go back. That seems logical, in a way that tries to justify the signing but, we have now signed McGugan who could play that role far more effectively. It might placate Leicester if we keep him for another month, but quite frankly, it's a waste of supposedly scarce resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That happens though..players get older...Would you play Hirst up front on Saturday? Yes with Waddle and Francis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yes with Waddle and Francis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 GTF was brought in to help get Stevie May firing. It hasn't really looked like working and we already have the players who can do that without carrying a passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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