fudge27 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 When did this forum get so full of WUMs? And unfunny ones at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 In my view we are looking better than we did, once one goes in things will turn After today that's what I think. I just worry how we are at home, this is the big concern for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Jon The Owl appears to suffer from myopia. I had my best specs on and saw a pulsating end to end Yorkshire derby. Even Beagrie the Blade(allegedly) was enthralled. We hit the post, bar and should have had a pen. All in all a decent point at a team thats won 3 and drawn one of their last 4 home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 when we can't score, of course we're in trouble. Draws won't stop us slowly slipping down the table. We need points in threes. Both teams had chances, but once again defences came out on top - we keep saying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Reyt. And how many games do we have to have to go without a win before I'm allowed to 'panic'? Exactly. Its about time some people took the blinkers off. "Best we've played in ages" yet we didnt win. We didnt score and could have just as easily lost as we could have won. It wasnt like we dominated. Many would say that it was a fair result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 In my view we are looking better than we did, once one goes in things will turn We only looked better because we were away, were still terrible at home. No goals all season at home from open play. Wigan will beat us next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 But in the second half we were playing as the home side and being caught on the break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncOwl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Really disappointed with Magugans performance today but to be fair to the lad he needs a few games.Not his fault though is it. Tactics inhibited him big time. It's akin to putting Westwood upfront and then saying that he's out of form. McGugan needs to play further forward. While ever he's next to Semedo he will have to drop deep. He needs to play alongside Lee or Coke. Semedo needs to be dropped; bring him on when we're 3-0 up and he has value. Whenever we need to attack, he ruins it all and causes all the problems by refusing to move from his zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Exactly. Its about time some people took the blinkers off. "Best we've played in ages" yet we didnt win. We didnt score and could have just as easily lost as we could have won. It wasnt like we dominated. Many would say that it was a fair result. Yep. The clapping is pitiful. It truly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Btw No ones saying we don't need to start scoring but it's not as if we've just lost a six pointer at the bottom either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 But in the second half we were playing as the home side and being caught on the break We won't play as well as that 2nd half at home next week I'm so confident of that. We have been dreadful at home and can't see that changing next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Not his fault though is it. Tactics inhibited him big time. It's akin to putting Westwood upfront and then saying that he's out of form. McGugan needs to play further forward. While ever he's next to Semedo he will have to drop deep. He needs to play alongside Lee or Coke. Semedo needs to be dropped; bring him on when we're 3-0 up and he has value. Whenever we need to attack, he ruins it all and causes all the problems by refusing to move from his zone. Maybe, but it was clear today he was poor whatever he did, playing him in a certain position doesn't make him lose the ball/give the ball away to opp players does it. He just had a poor game, he will come good I'm sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando17 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Far better than of late, it must be a different game i'm watching cos i thought Maghoma did reasonably well, Lees was all over at start but improved, think as i always have,Loovens is tripe Should have been 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncOwl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 We may get draws by having a great defence, but it's a much more dangerous game not being able to score. You draw every game in a season and you go down. You score for fun and you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 This is complete and utter garbage. Huddersfield should be ahead, and even if we go on to win this, the performance has been awful. No attacking threat, midfield is garbage, one or two players who look utterly out of their depth. Concerning times. We certainly look like a team that is capable of relegation this term. Pressure is building on Gray. Been saying this for a while, you're - points indicate how deluded our fan base are. A reasonable projection gives up a points total between 45 and 52. A team that can't score & win games goes down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 We may get draws by having a great defence, but it's a much more dangerous game not being able to score. You draw every game in a season and you go down. You score for fun and you don't. Scoring for fun cost money and we don't have any, we'll not go down but it aint going to get much better. My main worry is our home form because I think this is where SG fails, can't pick on him today though because it would be unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncOwl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Maybe, but it was clear today he was poor whatever he did, playing him in a certain position doesn't make him lose the ball/give the ball away to opp players does it. He just had a poor game, he will come good I'm sure of it. I agree that his touch, and sharpness wasn't there today, but the attacking option that he brings was stopped by having Semedo next to him. As a midfielder you have to work with your partner, you work as a team and move forward together and retreat together. McGugan can't move forward when Semedo won't go past half way. In the first 20mins semedo did venture forward and McGugan had a bit more licence, but then Semi reverted to type, and that meant that McGugan couldn't go forward without leaving gaps... so he didn't. Semedo needs to be dropped as he is one of the reasons that we will never ever sustain pressure on the opposition. Lee is McGugans natural partner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I agree that his touch, and sharpness wasn't there today, but the attacking option that he brings was stopped by having Semedo next to him. As a midfielder you have to work with your partner, you work as a team and move forward together and retreat together. McGugan can't move forward when Semedo won't go past half way. In the first 20mins semedo did venture forward and McGugan had a bit more licence, but then Semi reverted to type, and that meant that McGugan couldn't go forward without leaving gaps... so he didn't. Semedo needs to be dropped as he is one of the reasons that we will never ever sustain pressure on the opposition. Lee is McGugans natural partner... I suppose away from home there is good argument to keep Semedo along side Mcgugan but definitely when we're at home we need more in terms of going forward. I agree with what you said, I'd play Lee and Mcgugan and bring Semedo on if we're winning at least 2-0 with 20mins to go just to tighten things up and be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncOwl Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Scoring for fun cost money and we don't have any, we'll not go down but it aint going to get much better. My main worry is our home form because I think this is where SG fails, can't pick on him today though because it would be unfair. Scoring for fun is a risk. We have the talent to do it... We don't have the management team to chance it. Helan, Magoma, McGugan, Macguire, Nuhiu, May, GTF, Drenthe, even Palmer all are attacking players. The inhibiting factor is the defensive zonal (a la Irvine) play that is the priority. This stops any natural creativity. It's like saying to Beethoven; you go and write a brilliant overture mate, but you have to do it in the office between 9 & 5. It doesn't happen. Creative minds need freedom and Gray won't offer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I suppose away from home there is good argument to keep Semedo along side Mcgugan but definitely when we're at home we need more in terms of going forward. I agree with what you said, I'd play Lee and Mcgugan and bring Semedo on if we're winning at least 2-0 with 20mins to go just to tighten things up and be solid. Take Semedo out for home matches and sides will run right through us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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