dc88 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 madine is gash and drenthe isnt't match fit so how can either complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Losing confidence in us having the best defence in the league and being in the best postion we've held in the league for 6 seasons? Don't see it myself Doesn't matter how we are performing there will always be some fans wanting to moan - its what they live for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If we're safe from relegation with four or five games to play it'll be progress And I think we'll manage that no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Whilst Gray is not perfect, i still think he is doing a lot with a little. I agree. Once Maguire was booked, predictable he would get subbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Whilst Gray is not perfect, i still think he is doing a lot with a little. Yep, this league is full of snakes and ladders ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'll not worry till a player walks out the dressing room pre match and gets a taxi 200 miles home. Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I agree. Once Maguire was booked, predictable sensible that he would get subbed. Corrected it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 if the dressing room is being lost recently i put it down to giving Madine game time.... the rest of the players must be thinking wtf is he doing on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Interesting debate skills.the thread isn't worth debating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Losing confidence in us having the best defence in the league and being in the best postion we've held in the league for 6 seasons? Don't see it myself Yes, another 32 0-0 results should see us just about stay up with this great defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jesus wept what a poo thread, are people really asking this? He's lost the dressing room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 how can a squad that lets be honest isnt very good and as only lost 3 league games in 3 month´s be accused of not playing for the manager .....just coz someone who gets hauled off and shows disappointment doesnt mean the manager as lost the dressing room ,the manager who loses the dressing room is the one who gives in to the players and i dont see gray doing that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Inevitable that this will happen. Saturday was first time I've seen signs that the players are frustrated at decisions made by Gray. Nuhiu, May, Maguire, Lee, palmer and Madine all made no secret of being p1ssed off with various instructions, situations and team mates. Chopping and changing in desperation is evident from the stands, so the playing and coaching staff will feel it also. Losing confidence is the catalyst for failure and I reckon were just starting along this road. Well if thats the case, they should all buckle down and do as the manager asks of them and also give 100% effort ! ! Think your reading to much in to it and being listening to too many pundits Edited October 27, 2014 by Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think people are desperate to find any excuse for a loss, but this one really takes the biscuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I don't think Gray is losing the dressing room, far from it. We've racked up 9 clean sheets this season and have the best defensive record in the league and fans think we're losing the dressing room. We are also only 4 points from the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think people are desperate to find any excuse for a loss, but this one really takes the biscuit We didn't lose, though. Not that you'd know it reading half of the threads on here over the weekend! 0-0 against a team just relegated from the Premier League? Pass the cyanide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 We didn't lose, though. Not that you'd know it reading half of the threads on here over the weekend! 0-0 against a team just relegated from the Premier League? Pass the cyanide! True but Nuhiu looked baffled to be brought off and Maguire din't pass go and collect £200 pounds before he ran down the tunnel. So you can see where the OP is coming from As others have said we were never really out of the game but when it comes to the final third of the pitch we haven't a clue..where as every time Norwich attacked you could see a goal if it wasn't for Westwood being in inspired form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 True but Nuhiu looked baffled to be brought off and Maguire din't pass go and collect £200 pounds before he ran down the tunnel. So you can see where the OP is coming from As others have said we were never really out of the game but when it comes to the final third of the pitch we haven't a clue..where as every time Norwich attacked you could see a goal if it wasn't for Westwood being in inspired form It does make you wonder, why are we so poor in the final third. Lack of belief, imagination, confidence? What do they do in training everyday? We've seen ex players prove themselves at other clubs after being poo here, is it an internal factor within the club where we strictly authorise our players not to use creativity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It does make you wonder, why are we so poor in the final third. Lack of belief, imagination, confidence? What do they do in training everyday? We've seen ex players prove themselves at other clubs after being poo here, is it an internal factor within the club where we strictly authorise our players not to use creativity there was the point on Saturday when Drenthe was more or less at the byline and looked up and there was no one within 20 yards looking getting anywhere near to the box so he just crossed it any way as he had players bearing down on him. Is it just case of us spending too much being focused on not conceding? tbh if we could answer these questions we wouldn't be on here we'd be on the coaching staff It is a strange one because we seem to dominate games for 75% of the pitch and we can keep hold of the ball and dictate play but it's that last bit that's missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 its probably more to do with the fact watford and norwich have such top players, our whole 11 was too busy busting a gut trying to contain them, .... yet we hit the post v Brentford, not a coincidence.... im sure we will make chances vs the rotherhams/charlton and even bournemouth, not saying we will beat them, all 3 games could go either way. but none of them sides are watford or norwich (or forest/derby/ipswich an maybe reading for that matter) granted bounemouth are a good side, attacking wise, but you can get at them defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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