full fathom five Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 playing out wide in a 4-4-2 you are very much part of that midfield battle. It requires just as much discipline and workrate as the central midfielders. You have to get up the pitch to support the attacking play, get back in defence, press their full back when he has position, track their midfielder or their full back when they are attacking. Tuck inside when they have possesion on the opposite flank...get out wide and forward when we have posession etc. All things Maghoma fails to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
townend_owl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I would try a 5 man midfield with Maghoma in behind a lone striker (May) Westwood Helan (Mattock suspended) Lees Loovens Palmer Semedo Lee Drenthe Maghoma Maguire May Obviously with Mattock back, you could have Helan left then Maguire/Drenthe on the right. Bring a bit of a fear factor in with 3 players in midfield running at the defence at pace, with the dynamic runs of May, who hasn't been rewarded for said runs to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom22709 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He's not a central midfielder ffs, no where near disciplined enough to fill this role. Wouldn't need to be, he could be the advanced player in a 3 with Lee and Semedo. No10 role behind May, personally think Drenthe would play the role better though but Maghoma is wasted on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUowl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's a good idea, I'd like to see it. BUT In place of who and in what formation? Because in a 4-4-2 your either drop Lee or scarier still we drop semi. Personally a 4-5-1 with... Maguire.......Maghoma.......Drenthe .....................May That is genuinely frightening, in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUowl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I would try a 5 man midfield with Maghoma in behind a lone striker (May) Westwood Helan (Mattock suspended) Lees Loovens Palmer Semedo Lee Drenthe Maghoma Maguire May Obviously with Mattock back, you could have Helan left then Maguire/Drenthe on the right. Bring a bit of a fear factor in with 3 players in midfield running at the defence at pace, with the dynamic runs of May, who hasn't been rewarded for said runs to date. This will be my line up for footie manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Why do people persist with the idea of trying to find different roles for Maghoma to play? What makes them think he could suceed in a central midfield role that requires so much more discipline and workrate than his current role. He can't hack it in his natural position of out wide or up front so god help him in a midfield battle. Because I've seen with my own two eyes him make some very promising contributions from that position. It's really not so far-fetched to then ask the question of whether he could perform in the role from the start of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Irish used to be left footed and king used to overlap him.. Mattock should overlap regardless of what footed Maghoma is. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdan450 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I mentioned this in a post awhile ago, and still believe that he can be way more effective playing in a more central role. There are a few that have done it recently, Sterling, Di Marie. All have gone into a more central role and been able to affect the game more When Mags in on the wing, he is too slow with the ball. Having too many extra touches, constantly wanting to cut back inside, not delivering any crosses Put him in a central role in a 3 man midfield and he has the ability to go either way and really drive at the defence Definitely worth a go, just not sure whether Gray will do it or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I wouldnt mind that, but would that mean dropping Keiren Lee? Id play Helan out wide too based on his last performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The sensible posters on here Stop WUMming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarquin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Necessary change-------- Maghoma on the bench, you know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He's a right footed player being asked to play on the left week in week out - hence why he does nothing but cut inside everytime he gets near the box. I will continue to maintain that there is NO excuse for a player at this level to be so one-footed. What are such players doing in training all week, for several years? Especially when like Maghoma they are being used like this. Don't they have any pride, dedication or intelligence? I only ever played at a humble level, but I practiced to make sure I could use my weaker foot to a decent degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it encourages him to. We then have two options down that wing. Mattock can out a neat ball in while Maghoma can cut in and play through the middle instead. Maghoma cutting in creates space and potential overloading on the left hand side. While that is happening who is covering the left back spot??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I disagree, he may be technically good but as for what he actually brings to the side I don't think it's much at all. He doesn't have a position to me he is NOT a cm even in a 3 he doesn't have the skills or work ethic he's too slow on the ball. Also as a winger he doesn't beat a man nor offer an option to Mattock. To me he is a good League one player. For us the best thing we can do with him IMO is use him as a sub when the opponents are tired and he has that bit more time on the ball. Drenthe far superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SHVOwl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Would like to see him behind the striker and making runs forward in front of the striker with 2 proper wingers and 2 hard working central midfield players This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He can't pass? And doesn't have the work rate. What a stupid idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I disagree, he may be technically good but as for what he actually brings to the side I don't think it's much at all. He doesn't have a position to me he is NOT a cm even in a 3 he doesn't have the skills or work ethic he's too slow on the ball. Also as a winger he doesn't beat a man nor offer an option to Mattock. To me he is a good League one player. For us the best thing we can do with him IMO is use him as a sub when the opponents are tired and he has that bit more time on the ball. Drenthe far superior Exactly mate I will continue to maintain that there is NO excuse for a player at this level to be so one-footed. What are such players doing in training all week, for several years? Especially when like Maghoma they are being used like this. Don't they have any pride, dedication or intelligence? I only ever played at a humble level, but I practiced to make sure I could use my weaker foot to a decent degree. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 We had our own 'inside winger' right that some might remember who used to like coming inside. Admittedly his 'bad foot wasn't too shabby either ! Merson at Arsenal. Possibly the most one footed player I can ever remember. But.... it wasn't really about him having one foot. It was about him having a final product. He played on the left, but used to come in and thread thru-balls for right. Hanging cross to the back stick for Smith/Campbell and more often than not against Wednesday he'd cut in and score! I think Maghomas deviancies, as they are , are in his head not his feet. Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Merson at Arsenal. Possibly the most one footed player I can ever remember. He wasn't even the most one-footed player on that team. Step forward Nigel Winterburn. I used to HATE him for that and even remember him shinning an own goal because he was so determined to wrap his left leg around the clearance rather than use the much more natural right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 He wasn't even the most one-footed player on that team. Step forward Nigel Winterburn. I used to HATE him for that and even remember him shinning an own goal because he was so determined to wrap his left leg around the clearance rather than use the much more natural right one. Good call. And they played down the left as a partnership. One that most teams couldn't deal with. And that's what I mean in reference to Maghoma - It isn't always about the feet. It's about what's in the head. He's a reactor not an anticipator. Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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