HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) The target is 50 points Same as most seasons for the last 20 years Without major investment, it's steady progress We're in a better position than this time last year That's steady progress Anyone who thinks we should go out and spend a million or two You're probably following the wrong club It's been this way a long time Why don't people understand, we're skint. Edited October 22, 2014 by HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePiusX Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I don't know, and neither do you. I don't think five games is enough to base a prediction for the rest of the season on. I'd imagine we'd continue to be as inconsistent as we have been, because we're neither particularly good nor particularly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 On reflection, I am pleased with the clean sheet. I accept our limitations going forward, we simply don't have the personnel to trouble half decent sides on a consistent basis. We have set up to be solid and to try and grind out results, but of late, we've not looked as secure at the back. You always worry that, if you ignore a problem, you suddenly find you have problems elsewhere, so with that in mind, it was good to get back to basics last night. To be honest though, it's not the away games that concern me, it's the home games where the onus is on us to break sides down. How do we do that if we don't have the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Decent point against a useful team at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Judging by last nights result we're doomed to draw away at Brentford for all eternity. Doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Decent point against a useful team at home. Our current mid table status have been achieved by our away form (away wins). In isolation yes a decent point, but a worrying sign that the our of home goals has now turned in to a lack of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 First 20 minutes you could have drove a bus through our midfield, settled down and played some decent football. Pretty much an even game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 FFS, on recent form we are not going to have a mid table finish.. How hard is this to understand. Do only recent results count? I was under the impression that all the points accumulated during the season were added up. Silly me. You're assuming that our recent form will continue for the rest of the season. Given that we've already had one period of good results that saw us towards the top end of the table, there's nothing to say that we won't have more in the future. Very few teams are consistent for the entire season (either consistently good or consistently bad), aside from the ones right at the top and right at the bottom. I haven't seen anything from our results so far that suggests we're going to be one of those teams. We've lost three of thirteen (two of which were teams in top form at the time), and we have the second best defence in the division. Teams who concede fewer than a goal a game on average rarely find themselves in relegation battles, even if they don't score many at the other end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Do only recent results count? I was under the impression that all the points accumulated during the season were added up. Silly me. You're assuming that our recent form will continue for the rest of the season. Given that we've already had one period of good results that saw us towards the top end of the table, there's nothing to say that we won't have more in the future. Very few teams are consistent for the entire season (either consistently good or consistently bad), aside from the ones right at the top and right at the bottom. I haven't seen anything from our results so far that suggests we're going to be one of those teams. We've lost three of thirteen (two of which were teams in top form at the time), and we have the second best defence in the division. Teams who concede fewer than a goal a game on average rarely find themselves in relegation battles, even if they don't score many at the other end. Your right, projections are based on the assumption that any calculated form will continue for the rest of the season, and these points are added to those already gained. This model doesn't indicate anything about the consistently of that projected points gain, throughout the remaining games (you've made that up). The contentious point regarding this modelling is the period that is chosen for the form calculation. This can have bias and be chosen to support a view. If you're interested here are 3 possible periods and the projected outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Okay, so how do you know which model our season is going to follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG_1984 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I wish people would stop saying this, Our recent form (3 points from the last 5 games) is relegation form. Our lack of goals make reversing this diffcult. We are heading straight into a relegation battle. Yeah our recent form is relegation form. But our early season form was promotion form. Hence the reason why we're mid table Our form is a worry but with the squad we have it was unlikely we were going to sustain a promotion challenge. Every team goes through sticky patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Okay, so how do you know which model our season is going to follow? 31, 4, 12, 4, 17, 7 Euromillions in the bag for Friday, but don't tell anyone else, I hate sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 31, 4, 12, 4, 17, 7 Euromillions in the bag for Friday, but don't tell anyone else, I hate sharing. Glad we've cleared that one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Past Member Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Glad we've cleared that one up. The proper answer is that you have to choose a period based on the consistency of results and a period large enough to be at least a little bit stable. -A team that's been consitent would use the whole season's form, to project -An erratic team would again use the whole season's form, to project -A team whose form has trended (either up or down) would choose a more recent period Unfortunatley for us, we're looking like we're on a downward trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Happy with a point, would have taken that before the game started. Frustrating thing though is that by the sounds of it we had a period were we were on top and didnt take our chances. Crying out for a forward who can take the chances when handed to him. A creative midfielder would help though as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 What a difference it might make to May if instead of hitting the post it goes in. Strikers are confidence players. I think he just needs a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PAUL. Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Thought a draw was a fair result. Brentford looked like they were going to tear us a new one in the first twenty minutes. We really lacked that little bit of quality again in midfield that would/could have given us the 3 points. Energy and endeavour ok but not always enough. Nuhui was very poor and played down the middle, on the left and on the right in a bizarre second half tactical choice by SG. I thought Helan did ok, but as normal there was little or no end product from him after beating the full back. Not giving Drenthe some more time on the pitch I thought was a mistake. Palmer a worry for me but had a lot better second half. Lees our best player by a country mile for me, what a signing he's proved to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson123 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Good point against a team who will be comfortably in the top half of the table come May. Brentford are pacey and wanted the ball on the floor at every opportunity; some of their passages of play were impressive and a stark contrast to our lumps. I was disappointed we continued to let their keeper play the short balls, despite knowing what they were doing but ah well. I agree with Gray's comment: not many teams will go there and leave with a clean sheet. In terms of attacking, we were disappointing and it is hard to see where goals come from but we were also unlucky. Thought on any other day that could have been a 2-2 game etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 My thoughts are that we got a point. Stay tuned for my post-match Norwich thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Point away from home. That will do me, need to work on our home form. Still really pleased with our start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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