abrodie2002 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Keep: Kirkland Loovens Onyewu (if possible) Semedo Release: Llera JJ Reda Taylor Gardner Prutton Davies Loan out: Corry McCabe Mayor I think these 3 really need to start impressing somewhere. Wouldn't get rid just yet as they are all still relatively young. Also loan out Coke and Zayatte if we cannot get rid permanently I'm led to believe Taylor and Gardner are both on hefty wages plus getting rid of a few others should free up some dosh for newbies This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Beni Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Some big earners will be gone. If you thought we could pick up lee camp for half the wage of kirkland I'm sure many would consider it also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gparrish Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Keep kirkland Loovens Semedo Onewyu Reda - offer a 1 year deal on reduced terms, possible extension if he plays x amount of games. Let go Prutton Llera Davies Jameson JJ Taylor Gardner - I'd have a look at him over pre season, especially if we cant agree terms with Loovens and Oneywu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Madine's not out of contract mate, got another year. Yeah, I thought that. I just meant give him 6 months to see how he does before we decide whether we look to move him on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 With our recent history of this season, I dont see how we can sign both Loovens & Onyewu, because of their injury record so far, the same with A Johnson. We realy need a settled defence for next season so for me it is Loovens and let the other two go, then sign two Central defenders who are fitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff_Owl Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 We shouldn't keep players 'as backup' or 'as 3rd/4th choice', particularly when it's based on sentimentality. You just end up with a bloated, uncompetitive squad where you get an injury and all your momentum goes and your budget is spent up. 2 quality players battling for each shirt and the loan market/dev squad is there if needs be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Reda needs to go. We can't afford players that only play at most 10 games a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I still think we'd find a place and a use for Reda in there at a relatively low cost. That's the problem we face though, how can we find a place or a use for somebody who doesn't play matches? I'm really not trying to slate Reda because it's difficult not to be a fan, but if Joe Mattock was our first choice left back for example, and had missed the amount of football that Reda has over the last 2 seasons due to injury, would anybody be wanting the club to renew his contract? Reda isn't breaking his legs or anything, he's walking unaided off the pitch and not being seen again for 4 or 5 months at a time, which suggests that even when he plays he's being patched up and isn't really fit, it's just too much unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Reda needs to go. We can't afford players that only play at most 10 games a season. 21 appearances in all comps this season, 17 last season in all comps. I'm with you it's not enough, I like him but doesn't play no where near enough to warrant another contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 21 appearances in all comps this season, 17 last season in all comps. I'm with you it's not enough, I like him but doesn't play no where near enough to warrant another contract. ...similar to what we might get from Hutchinson - but people still want him, and his knee problem will plague him. I still think Reda's worth a new deal, unless there's a medical report stating his injuries are likely to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Keep Kirkland and Loovens and get rid of rest. That includes Reda (too injury prone) and Semedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattswfc1 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Unfortunately players like coke and zayatte are in contracts so sadly we can't just tell them to clear off. Might be wrong but if coke sees out his contract he'll have had 6 years? Makes me despair 5 years. Joined in 2010 and will leave in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 ...similar to what we might get from Hutchinson - but people still want him, and his knee problem will plague him. I still think Reda's worth a new deal, unless there's a medical report stating his injuries are likely to continue. I don't think we should sign Hutch either. I'm tired of us signing players for what they COULD do, not for what they ACTUALLY do. We need to clear out the deadwood, and with tons of players out of contract end of this season, now's a perfect chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I don't think we should sign Hutch either. I'm tired of us signing players for what they COULD do, not for what they ACTUALLY do. We need to clear out the deadwood, and with tons of players out of contract end of this season, now's a perfect chance. But I don't consider Reda to be deadwood. He's an influential player of a good age, and worth a six-figure sum. We've put 3+1/2yrs into his development - with possibly his best yet to come. He has the summer months to recover from any knocks, strains and niggles. Unless there's an underlying medical problem meaning his injuries would persist, I'd keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AbbeyOwl Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) But I don't consider Reda to be deadwood. He's an influential player of a good age, and worth a six-figure sum. We've put 3+1/2yrs into his development - with possibly his best yet to come. He has the summer months to recover from any knocks, strains and niggles. Unless there's an underlying medical problem meaning his injuries would persist, I'd keep him. Deja Vu, Reda is supposed to play football that is what his contract id for, absolutely love the Guy but we cannot depend on him, he misses over 50% of the games, no one seems to even be able to say what is wrong with him. Doubt he will get a contract, this season has mirrored last year Edited April 15, 2014 by AbbeyOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 To be fair, if we could consider Reda a serious option at centre back, then I think he'd be useful to have around. If he's just challenging Mattock and Helan for the left back role, then maybe he's a luxury. It he gave us cover in both positions, he'd be more valuable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AbbeyOwl Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 To be fair, if we could consider Reda a serious option at centre back, then I think he'd be useful to have around. If he's just challenging Mattock and Helan for the left back role, then maybe he's a luxury. It he gave us cover in both positions, he'd be more valuable He is rarely fit, he cant provide cover from the treatment room, taking up a squad place and wages, surely this money would be better spent elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Deja Vu, Reda is supposed to play football that is what his contract id for, absolutely love the Guy but we cannot depend on him, he misses over 50% of the games, no one seems to even be able to say what is wrong with him. Doubt he will get a contract, this season has mirrored last year Well I hope Stuart Gray thinks differently. If Reda goes elsewhere on a free and plays 30+ games next year scoring a number of goals, we might look back with regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Well I hope Stuart Gray thinks differently. If Reda goes elsewhere on a free and plays 30+ games next year scoring a number of goals, we might look back with regret.This this thisCould see him going to Barnsley or Donny and having a worldy of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Based on these players. Let go of: Llera (not good enough) Gardner (crock on big wages) Taylor Prutton JJ Reda (not our best left back, would consider as a CB but he is unproven at this level in that position) Keep Loovens, Kirkland, Semedo, Onyewu That should free up a STACK of wages to get a proper striker and cover other areas. I'd also keep Reda as back up centre back (along with Zayatte) to Onyewu and Loovens and he could also act as backup left back to Helan and Mattock. That would leave us with a defensive squad of: Kirkland Buxton Palmer Onyewu Loovens Zayatte Reda Helan Mattock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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