vulva Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Chris Maguire is another one, oh and don't forget Joe Mattock. Difference is that they were never given a chance. I've seen enough of Madine to realise he ain't good enough at Championship level. Flat track bully in League 1 will be the peak of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He wasn't good enough even before he went to jail. This club is progressing from League 1 to Championship, and we need to bring in players of a higher quality, if we need to keep moving forward. I disagree. I think we need to give him the chance to do the same as others have done under Gray. It appears that he will get this chance too. You might be right in your view that he is not capable of progressing to being a good Championship performer. But we'll only know after seeing how he does under the new regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Difference is that they were never given a chance. I've seen enough of Madine to realise he ain't good enough at Championship level. Flat track bully in League 1 will be the peak of his career. I would like to see him have a chance under Gray's guidance, like Maguire, Mattock and Lee, I think he'll come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I would like to see him have a chance under Gray's guidance, like Maguire, Mattock and Lee, I think he'll come good. Only time will tell. I think he'll pop up at Carlisle, go for a nominal fee in the summer, and be in the paper in a few years for all the wrong reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Only time will tell. I think he'll pop up at Carlisle, go for a nominal fee in the summer, and be in the paper in a few years for all the wrong reasons. Certainly possible but as you say; only time will tell. The important thing now is that he starts from a level playing field . The rest is up to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggnmaz Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Brum. Don't know when To be played at the training ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He will score at least two goals In each half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
till_i_die Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Difference is that they were never given a chance. I've seen enough of Madine to realise he ain't good enough at Championship level. Flat track bully in League 1 will be the peak of his career. Isn't that exactly what everyone said about Semedo? And some said about Palmer? And Helan (jury's still out imo)? And players like Gabby Agbonlahor on loan, looked like an extremely average player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CageFightingOwl Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 In my opinion and from what i have seen, Gaz is the best finisher at the club, i believe he's suffered in a team with very little service. He wasnt given much of a chance in a pretty poor side last season. With Maguire, Palmer, Maghoma and Mattock recently looking to cross early we have been creating chances. Im not getting on Nuhiu's back because i rate him and think he will get better but Madine would have scored many of those chances that Nuhiu couldnt finish. I would have a guess that in a SG side Madine will get back to scoring. All the other players were given clean slates under SG and look at the success its gained, time for Madine to be given his chance. Good Luck Gary Madine WAWAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Vulva would rather we'd not develop promising players, but get rid of them and bring in the sort of misfit journeymen our wage budget allows. Also how are we going to know that he can prove himself in the Championship by playing for another team in League 1 or 2. Some folk on here can't even spell logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieOwler Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Only time will tell. I think he'll pop up at Carlisle, go for a nominal fee in the summer, and be in the paper in a few years for all the wrong reasons. Don't like to neg but I strongly disagree with both your comments. He's the league one Wickham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I can see the merits in loaning him for a month but after that we need to see if he can hack it at this level. Between now and may could be perfect provided we stay out of the battle at the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I can see the merits in loaning him for a month but after that we need to see if he can hack it at this level. Between now and may could be perfect provided we stay out of the battle at the bottom We know he's a damn good player at league 1 level, so what the hell is sending him out on loan going to prove??? Answers on a postcard to that one!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We know he's a damn good player at league 1 level, so what the hell is sending him out on loan going to prove??? Answers on a postcard to that one!!!! I guess the suggestion was for him to regain match fitness. I'd prefer him to be kept here but I can see why some would argue that match fitness and sharpness might be achieved more quickly in competitive League 1 matches than pottering around in friendlies etc here followed by cameos off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFC_Liam Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 If we can get the Gary Madine back from 2011-12, we have an excellent young striker on our books. He's done his time and the club is willing to give him a fresh start, fair enough, it's not like he's a rapist or murderer is it? Good luck Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlsinmisery Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He wasn't good enough even before he went to jail. This club is progressing from League 1 to Championship, and we need to bring in players of a higher quality, if we need to keep moving forward. You may be right, but most of the players looked rubbish under Jones and now look at them. He should be given a chance and if he succeeds then all well and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 It would be daft for the club to do this.... They've already said he's staying, to go back on this would reflect badly on the club. Madine's a young lad who is desperate to restart his career, he barely played last season & when he did it was under Mr Grumpy and his stifling tactics. As well as the fact that he had a court case and a likely prison sentence hanging over him. Being kept out the side by Howard/Sidibe/Bothroyd and facing a prison sentence isn't good motivation for anyone. I reckon we'll see the same Madine we saw in league one. Scoring plenty of goals and being a fans favourite again He couldnt hack it in the champioship last season ,so why does anyone think he can score goals in the championship now. ? Good league one striker ,not up to championship standard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The club arn't daft. Not anymore. Get him fit, get him out on loan scoring a few goals and then sell in the summer for as much as possible. Draw a line under the whole affair, as quickly as possible. Sell him to a league rival which will potentially come back to bite us in the arse. Logikz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest intercity0wl Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Good sign that he's fit enough to even play a reserve game this soon into his release, unless it's only going to be a 20 minute cameo. Nowts changed then. Edited March 6, 2014 by intercity0wl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He couldnt hack it in the champioship last season ,so why does anyone think he can score goals in the championship now. ? Good league one striker ,not up to championship standard . I think because some think his attitude might have changed. Some think he might have matured a bit both physically and emotionally. Some also want to see if he can improve under Gray as others have done. I just think its worth seeing how it works out over the next couple of months rather than just writing him off as despite last season I think he has it in him. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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